Denied Joda's Appeal

Discussion in 'TTT Ban Appeals' started by Joda, Feb 15, 2018.

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  1. Joda

    Joda New Member

    Your In Game Nickname:
    JoDa
    Your Steam ID:
    STEAM_1:1:41688412
    Which Server:
    EU2
    Why you should be unbanned:
    My ban reason was: "Banned by Ata47 for Mass RDM (x3)"

    I had killed 2 people in the bathrooms in one round because shots fired from that location had killed a detective, and the shooter had not left the bathrooms. Naturally, anyone in the bathrooms would have known about it, so I killed everyone in there. I got 2 reports and 2 slays. While I was serving the 2 slays, Ata47 banned me. He had slayed me once on the previous map for killing someone who had obviously activated a trap in front of me, trying to kill me. I had argued the case of the trap with him for some time, seeing as it was obvious who had activated it, given the circumstances and the fact that I had checked the area around beforehand. He didn't drop the slay, claiming you could activate the trap from everywhere on the map. (The map in question was Hotel)

    I believe that I had been falsely slayed the first time, possibly falsely slayed the second and third time, and that the moderator (Ata47) may have held bias.​
    Evidence of Innocence:
    Logs of the EU 2 from approximately 3:30pm EST on 2/15/2018 to 5:10pm EST on 2/15/2018.

    I was slayed on the "ttt_clue_se" map for something that happened on the last round of the "ttt_innocentmotel_v1" map, if I am remembering the maps correctly. The first slay was due to someone activating a pitfall trap right as I walked into it, and due to the circumstances, proving beyond a doubt to me that they were a traitor.
    https://gyazo.com/89fe4466b481d101f93171adca6aca8a
    https://gyazo.com/eb8abc27c7749855c0ece3f0a3eaafbf
    https://gyazo.com/d29acb711a44271330f80348f90871bf

    The second two slays happened on the "ttt_nuclear_power_v4_fix" map due to myself killing two people in the bathroom that shots that killed a detective were fired from (After the shots were fired, noone had left the bathroom). Since the bathroom is such a small space, it would be obvious to anyone in it when someone else inside it shoots someone then runs away, so I killed the two people I saw. Right after, I was shot in the back by a third, who was a traitor. I had two slays added to me for this after one report. After I had served one slay, and after the second victim reported me, I was banned for "Banned by Ata47 for Mass RDM (x3)". Naturally, I had only killed two people that round, with reasonable evidence, and the third person killed was killed two maps ago.
    https://gyazo.com/fcca022664ca652d8f6132876aebb39f
    https://gyazo.com/36963f39b685482c9ff7307e58cced9c
    (The next one has no new information, but I'm posting it to prove continuity in the console)
    https://gyazo.com/7231f0bd5c97e216ee728240a2823f1e
    https://gyazo.com/c42fcb3299f5a4d85e438feb53eeb5fc
     
  2. Grimoire+

    Grimoire+ Sigillum diaboli VIP

    tagging @Ata47 to handle your concerns, please be patient while he responds.
     
  3. Ata47

    Ata47 Mars Rover Banned VIP

    Alright I banned you for 3 RDM's on 2 maps. ttt_nuclear_power_v4_fix and ttt_innocentmotel_v1
    The first RDM was the case you already mentioned above. You shot someone that was standing right in front of you for activating a T Trap. You said that he looked at it and activated it. After that I PMed you (!p Player Message) and told you that you can't kill for that because you can't proof that he activated it, because you can activate it from almost everywhere. After I added the slay you said that you checked every room nearby but you can't check every area of the map in time. Many people could've entered and left the rooms you were "checking".

    The second and third RDM were on the same map, about 5 seconds apart. You saw a dead, identified Detective body infront of the bathroom the 2 players were in and killed both of them because the Detective got killed from that room. I checked the logs and noticed that I killed the Detective via Deathstation and he was never in / near that room. You killed those 2 players off suspicioun and I decided to add the slays and check for previous slays.

    I will add the logs of every RDM soon but I have to check my recording for the reports, if I even recorded in that time.

    JoDe(1).png
    1st RDM (on innocentmotel)
    Alpha activated the T Trap (also looking at it) and you killed him for being "the only one near it" and directly looking at it in the same moment it got activated. I told you that you can't kill someone for that because you can't proof that he activated it. Traitors can activate it from the rooftops, the basement and even the pool on the other side of the map.​
    JoDe(3).png
    2nd + 3rd RDM (on nuclear power fix)
    You killed "tay" and "Pups" for being in a spot that a Detective got killed from, but as you can see in the image below I killed both Detectives that were alive in that time. I killed them about 20-30 meters away from the bathroom the 2 Victims were in.​
    JoDe(2).png

    Appeal: Denied
    Thread: Locked

    If you don't agree with something I said or want to continue discussing this ban you can create a conversation on the forums with me ( and maybe also my Admin Rhienor) or add me or my Admin on steam.
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2018
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