Picture this scenario: Player 1: Player 2 is a traitor! Player 1: I'm with player 2. Seems reasonable right? But let's say you know for a fact player 2 did not shoot at player 1. Player 1 called a KOS on player 2, which means one of two things are true: Player 1 called a false KOS (kos'able), or witnessed a T-act. Player 1 also confessed to being with player 2. Since you know for a fact no shooting was going on, he must've been GBA - as he previously witnessed player 2 commit a T-act. Can you kill player 1? The way I see it, you know with absolute certainty that player 1 either called a false KOS, or is GBA via witnessing a T-act and not attempting to kill the player. It's an actual situation that occured in-game just moments ago, and I'm just curious about whether or not it would've been a valid kill had I done it.
So this situation wouldnt be GBA because of the fact that a KOS was called. If you know for a fact that player 2 did not shoot then you can kill 1.
Why? You'd have had to watched player 2 the entire round to know that player 2 didn't do a single T-act that was witnessed by player 1 since player 1 could be calling a kos for a multitude of reasons that don't involve shooting at that moment including for T-acts that happened earlier in the round. The only way to confirm it's a false kos without player 2 kosing back is to identify Player 2's corpse, witness or have witnessed Player 2 test, or have watched player 2 every second from 0 seconds into the round
Just because player 2 has not been killed does not mean player 1 did not act upon the traitorous act player 2 committed; player 1 might be retreating because they're at low health. It is also possible that player 1 accidentally hit their KOS bind or KOS'd them in crossfire, both of which are things that happen frequently. So no, you cannot kill player 1 lest it be a kill on suspicion. And as a general rule, I wouldn't take things like "I'm with _____" to be proof that they are actually with them because the bind can be used as long as the player is in sight (this is how I tend to operate, at least). Plus what noct said. Sidenote: Players are not considered to be GBA for not acting on KOSes.
Did you witness player 1 witnessing player 2 commit a t-act without acting on it? Yes: GBA No: not GBA
@Lordyhgm @Lead Vladmin the Impaler Can we get some clarification on this? I have always been told in the past that you cannot deem a kos a "false kos" with your own information. It can only be deemed a false kos if the person who is falsely kosed koses the other guy back. Ihave been slain before because i knew someone was proven, and when somebody else kosed my proven buddy, i killed them for false kos. The mod said it's not a false kos because being proven isn't 100% and nobody kosed the original koser back.
So it sounds like your case was mishandled, but I don't know all the details. If you witness someone get proven you can certainly kill people for calling a KOS on them. You gotta see them get proven though.
And the only 100% way for someone to be proven is with a T-tester that can't be faked, right? Killing a T isn't 100% because it could be crossfire or rdm
Stolen from rules "Calling KOS on innocents/detectives" If you witness someone getting "proven" and they get KOSed by someone, they Are doing a T act
The short answer is you can't kill them. You yourself are already questioning the situation. If you kill somebody in game and question the situation it is a kill on suspicion, you ALWAYS have to be certain before you kill somebody. T-testers that can't be faked are only in 2 or 3 MCmaps, So T's can use their ways to get "proven" as well, it is part of the game mechanics to use tactics that might mark them as proven.
