Donation System Violates EULA

Discussion in 'Archived Minecraft Discussion' started by Goose, Jan 25, 2017.

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  1. Goose

    Goose Duck, Duck, Goose Motherfucker VIP

    Pretty sure our donation system violates the Minecraft EULA. Do not know if Microsoft enforces it. I'm not a lawyer though so that is not legal advice, just not sure and don't want you guys to get sued or something. The part I am worried about is:
    Hard currency is real money or anything that can be converted into real money, including, but not limited to, Bitcoins. Soft currency is available in-game only and has no real-world value. You may not sell soft currency for hard currency, neither separately or along with ranks as a single or recurring payout. This is regardless of what you can use the soft currency for.

    Because the Commercial usage guidelines state that you may charge for access to your server only if you make a single charge per person that is the same for everyone, you may not sell “lives” or reduced ban time for hard currency. If you have a single entrance fee for your server, it needs to be the same for all players, including the ones connecting for the first time.

    The Commercial usage guidelines also state that you may give everyone you charge access to all the Mods that you choose to have on your server, except only in respect of genuine admin tools/mods which should be reserved for administrators. Because of this, you may not sell “unbans”, “unmutes” or similar admin tools for your server for hard currency, regardless of who receives the money.

    Additionally, the Commercial usage guidelines state that you may sell cosmetic items, except for “capes”, if the item sold does not give a user an unfair gameplay advantage over anyone else on the server. Due to this, you are not allowed to sell the following for hard currency:

    • The ability to:
      • use a portable crafting table, chest, ender chest, compass, etc.
      • set the time of day or weather, for yourself or others, other than in places where the intended server's gameplay does not occur, such as the lobby of a minigame server.
      • clear your inventory.
      • respawn.
      • create teleportation points, no matter who can use them.
      • teleport to a saved location (commonly, the /home command).
      • teleport to your last location (commonly, the /back command).
      • see other players’ inventory, other than in creative mode.
      • see a list of players that are nearby, other than in creative mode.
      • see the crafting recipe for an item, or the ability to craft an item automatically.
      • remove the enchantment from an item.
      • automatically sell blocks that you mine.
      • automatically compress resources to their block form.
      • fly in places where the intended server's gameplay occurs.
      • edit several blocks at the same time, regardless of where on the server you can do it.
      • keep your inventory or specific items when you die.
    • A non-cosmetic item or perk:
      • that is dropped in an area accessible by everyone, whether other players are notified of the drop or not.
      • as a prize after fighting a boss in an area accessible by everyone, whether other players are notified of the event or not.
    • Bedrock blocks or other non-cosmetic items.
    • Schematics, regardless of the game mode.
    • Higher bandwidth, or other improved connections to the server.
    • Access to contests based on stats (i.e. most blocks mined etc.), if the prize is not cosmetic.
    • Decreased cooldown for non-cosmetic commands.
    • Items or perks that affect gameplay or give the player an unfair advantage, even if they are also available through soft currency purchase, or just by playing the game for a certain time.
    Source: https://help.mojang.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1590522-minecraft-commercial-use
    @Highwon @Disruptionz
     
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  2. Squidd

    Squidd VIP

    Yeah.. I'd like to see an official response to the EULA questions. Last thing I want to do is support a server finacially that MAY be breaking the EULA.

    You have clearly sold commands such as /ec, /home, and /ci to say the least. Lets not even look ito Crates and /kits. Care to explain? I'd love to be simply misunderstanding the situation but I don't know how possible that is currently.

    Edit: Tagging @Deathbyrussian and @irritatingness as they were developers of the server as well.
     
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  3. Goose

    Goose Duck, Duck, Goose Motherfucker VIP

    Pretty sure they were just unaware of the EULA, have the server hosted in a locality with additional local legal protections that shield it from certain pieces of the EULA, or know that it is not enforced whatsoever by Microsoft. I am pretty certain that no one working on the server knowingly and willingly violate the EULA. Tagging @Deathbyrussian and @irritatingness again because it doesn't give them an alert if done in an edit.
     
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  4. Fuzzy Slug

    Fuzzy Slug The Slug Army VIP Emerald

    I hope this thread isn't going to get the server taken down.
     
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  5. Fuzzy Slug

    Fuzzy Slug The Slug Army VIP Emerald

    Correct but when you run a server it forces a shutdown on itself until you accept the EULA file. You have to change the argument from False to True, if they changed that value its more than likely they read the EULA before starting a full on community server.
     
  6. Panda With a Gun

    Panda With a Gun CHINA NUMBA ONE Administrator VIP Emerald

    What's the big one? Mineplex? If Mineplex can do it I'm sure we are fine. I doubt Microsoft cares.
     
  7. Squidd

    Squidd VIP

    Mineplex's chests are completely Cosmetic afaik though, therefor not break EULA.
     
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  8. Sage.

    Sage. VIP Silver Emerald

    I'm sure they switched to cosmetics only.
     
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  9. Panda With a Gun

    Panda With a Gun CHINA NUMBA ONE Administrator VIP Emerald

    Aren't there like rank exclusive classes as well?
     
  10. Squidd

    Squidd VIP

    It doesn't give an advantage in gameplay though. That's why they can do that. If one class was numerically broken compared to the other then it would be against EULA but they most likely balance it enough to not be an issue.

    Nothing like our /kit starter Vs. /kit Diamond
     
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  11. Sage.

    Sage. VIP Silver Emerald

    Not anymore with the new EULA. Everything now requires their in-game currency only, which has no real-world value - which is obtainable without purchase.
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2017
  12. Zypther

    Zypther #SuitUp VIP Bronze Iron

    The voting is not Eula friendly, you cannot give money, or other items that take some time to get.
     
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  13. Amatsu

    Amatsu Emerald

    Given past issues, I give it a 50/50 chance we'll either get an response or complete radio silence.
     
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  14. Kyül

    Kyül Caged Bird VIP Bronze

    If the server gets taken down, which I hope it doesnt, it wouldnt be this threads fault. It would be the Owners/Devs fault for not reviewing EULA correctly or not knowing how to handle the situation. Again, this is an if, so im not blaming anybody, and it dont think or hope it will happen. But still, no right to blame it on this thread.
     
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  15. Kyül

    Kyül Caged Bird VIP Bronze

    Yes but having content be exclusive is not breaking EULA. As stated on the OP´s post (@Goose) , reserving basic game mechanics that alter/have control over other players gameplay behind a paywall is not allowed on open servers. But thats just a really basic way to put it.
     
  16. @ifavila I gotchu homie.
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  17. ifavila

    ifavila Active Member

    Secretagent I asked him the question though
     
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  18. I was just posting the picture, I never claimed ownership. I even credited you.
     
  19. Squidd

    Squidd VIP

    Hes not the sharpest tool in the shed man.
     
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