The Winchester, and M14 can be adjusted to be more accurate and usable at medium-long ranges. The Winchester should be "0.006" (or maybe "0.008") The M14 should be 0.01, since its faster than the winchester but at the same time wouldn't be as accurate as the HK-SL8 (because it has no scope)
M14 having 32 damage is interesting, literally 2 damage away from a 3 shot kill instead of 4 shot, I'd like to see either a damage buff or cone buff. Winchester could use a bit smaller cone.
It is fine where it is, I watch Kingsai fucking go 8 kills and take 0 dmg and you want to make it a sniper rifle. Let me guess while you 2 are obsessed with your broken HKSL8 and Winchester (if it gets improved) youll still complain about that 1 ak that kills you once every 2 maps.
If that gun was so good more than 2 people would use it, he probably uses that gun just to make things fun, if he used ak or hksl8 it'd be boring.
I dont know what crack you're on but everytime ive played with Winchester he has a following of kids trying to copy him. And then after he rampages with it like half the damn server whips out the winchester it does not need any improvements. Its not a sniper, its a rifle.
Bro I play with winchester DAILY, people can certainly try to copy but they wont even get more than 4 kills.
Yeh bad aim is bad aim, improving it merely because he wants it improved so he can fuck shit up more, im sure if anyone used it as much as him, it would be just as annoying at your HKSL8 which is absolutely the most broken gun on the server.
Or maybe because other people would like to use it as well (like me) for the challenge but don't like how horribly broken it is now? If we want to talk about weapon balance why dont we nerf the top 5 weapons that everyone uses or buff every other gun.
How is it broken? do explain? cause if you are someone that can aim you just 1 shot headshot everyone. WHICH YOU BOTH CAN. So dont act like it needs improving merely because you want another 1 shot headshot sniper. YA know what, my vote make it fully automatic, give it 300 rounds, put the shots per second to 0.00001 so you can just mow down hallways, hell lets add no reload time and make the dps 700 and explosive shots.
Not british but nice try kid, good luck with your gun being improved to suit your needs, xpro got his gun.
You're just putting up far more of a fight than needed, yet ignoring other issues such as overall weapon balance. And you do it all with such a negative tone :C
Im putting up a fight because I dont want to see a decent gun upgraded because you 2 best buds want it too be OP. Im not ignoring the issue. But upgrading everything you 2 use to be 1 shot headshot doesnt help the issue. Also negative tone... kek this is text there is no tone here, merely an opinion. You're the one getting salty because I dont want to see another 1 of your guns fucking raping the servers.
So you're argument is, one player is good with the winchester already so that means that everyone else doesn't get a buff and make it usable. K.
No my argument is that the winchester is already GOOD and you 2 as players prove that it functions fine and does not need to be upgraded in anyway. You just want it upgraded to suit you 2, but it doesn't work like that, the gun is fine, you prove that it works fine and can be deadly in the right hands or with practice.
I feel like if you are going to main a shotgun, you should deal with the punishment that comes with using a shotgun vs an actual long-range weapon. Having to get closer to people to 1tap with it is reasonable and I don't agree that it needs these kinds of buffs or any at all, really.
