Invalid Report against Uglubathr Katilbiornsson // ((Heli ?? ))

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by Yellow, May 4, 2019.

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  1. Yellow

    Yellow VIP

    Name of Staff/Player:
    Uglubathr Katilbiornsson // ((Heli ?? ))
    Steam ID of Staff/Player:
    STEAM_0:1:189818190 // (( STEAM_0:1:44409699 ))
    Your Steam ID:
    STEAM_0:0:153941989
    Which Server:
    EU2
    Which Map:
    Powerplant
    Which Round:
    Not sure
    Time of Occurence:
    04:15
    Reason For Report:
    I was playing got killed by Uglubathr and after the round i looked in the damage logs to see if i did propdamage him; i didn't so i reported him
    Heli had finished it and not slain Uglubathr which i thought was weird since the damage logs clearly showed i didn't damage him (He took damage from the door)
    So i asked him about this (see the pictures below)
    And he also said if i had an issue i should request another mod to look at it so that's what i'm doing


    P.S. I have no hate against Heli or Uglubathr i just want to know who is right in this situation
    (I don't even care if Uglubathr get's slain or not i just want to know If Heli or if I'm correct so i know it in the future)​
    Evidence And/Or Witnesses:
    Damage logs: https://imgur.com/pRgwJVD
    Messages :
     
  2. Yellow

    Yellow VIP

  3. Temar

    Temar Administrator VIP

    I did not handle the report or see the DS so i couldn't say if it was RDM or not
    I did send you some PM by request of heli explaining that the logs arn't perfect, and often we have to use DS to see damage / who caused it
    Also just because damage was caused by a door doesn't mean you arn't responsible, in this case I believe you had pushed him into the position were the door damaged him
     
  4. Yellow

    Yellow VIP

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    Also i didn't see the pm's after i made the report
     
  5. Temar

    Temar Administrator VIP

    yer im unsure of what happened i was just going off some chat, @Heli12345 will post the proper reason and evidence
    also im tagging @ryan as his admin
    and this report is mainly against @Heli12345 as the mod who handled the report
     
  6. Alright so,
    You used your prop to push me into the door which caused me to be squished
     
  7. Heli12345

    Heli12345 iFly VIP

    Deathscene:


    Report: [​IMG]

    The deathscene shows some damage taken, as shown in the very slight color change in Uglubathr Katilbiornsson's name. As I mentioned in-game, logs don't always show prop damage.
     
  8. Yellow

    Yellow VIP

    Just want to say now that i've seen the deathscene i agree that Uglubathr didn't deserve the slay. But i do want to mention that you said "prop damage" but the prop i was carrying did not do damage to Uglubathr it was the door if it was the prop i was carrying it would've been shown in the dmg logs

    Also i feel Heli's reasoning was basicly that he trusted Uglubathr on his words he didn't check the deathscene untill i made this report

    Because if he hadn't seen the deathscene it would've been this:

    Player A took damage
    Player A kills player B

    which is rdm

    but this report can be closed @ryan
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2019
  9. Temar

    Temar Administrator VIP

    The map changed before i got involved, I gave you a general statement on how not everything gets logged which is true and can be the case even if the prop causes the damage. that is all
    I couldn't check what happened at the time as I didn't have the DS
     
  10. ryan

    ryan yeet VIP

    Hello @Yellow, after reviewing the evidence my moderator @Heli12345 presented I will be marking this half of the report invalid on him.
    Damagelogs have the chance to not show prop related damage and in that case, we have to use death scenes to see who killed/damage that player which the death scene provided shows @Uglubathr kaetilbiornsson being pushed by the prop you held.
    This will also be marked invalid as heli looked into the death scene seeing you did push uglu with the prop. I will be leaving this report open for @Fear☠ conclusion.
    If you have any further questions about this report you can message me here or on discord @RyAn#9848
     
  11. Fear☠

    Fear☠ The Dark Lord VIP

    Uglu didn't do anything wrong in this.

    He simply answered the report and let Heli handle it as he's supposed to.

    Invalid
     
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