I recently ran into a situation that I chose to illustrate for you to explain and I would like to know if this is rdm or not. Spoiler: first A major part of why Smusha claimed this was rdm was that the ledge wasn't big enough for him to go around me. It very much was, and even if it hadn't been I believe it was this person's job to identify the body before I had the time to walk up, since he was closer to it than I was. Even if not, I expected him to make an effort, which he failed to do so. Spoiler: second Although this player begins to walk towards the second body after presumably identifying the first one, he sees me and begins to back up away from the unidentified body in front of him, therefore failing to identify the body. The argument for this was that I scared him... really? Spoiler: third I kill this man, and although I was "forgiven", it was deemed as rdm by this admin. Upon talking to Helix and my prior knowledge of situations like this, it was then deemed not rdm but toxic gameplay if abused. Spoiler: in game chat note that smusha leaves the server without saying anything yet he claimed to xd Spoiler: Admin conversation Spoiler: Lead Admin conversation In my experience, any time someone very clearly backs away from an unidentified body, you can kill them. If walking over unidentified bodies is no longer traitorous then by all means, let me know. But I am still curious as to the true verdict of this specific situation. I'd like a lead confirmation on this, even though I've already received one it'd be nice if it was public. Edit: to give more context, here's it drawn on the map Spoiler: rooftops Upon seeing me, this player backs away from this body instead of continuing to walk towards it and identify it. Because of that, he is no longer actively identifying bodies and is committing a traitorous act by walking away from that unidentified body, regardless of if I spooked him. Saying I scared him is just a lame excuse, like if someone shot the floor and you killed them because they spooked you. I couldn't have spooked him in the slightest, this is one of the most open maps there are. Second edit: Thanks for rating creative, I know my art is beautiful. I'm sorry it's a shitty drawing instead of a recording, I stopped my recording because I needed it for a report eee
Hey @lil f and thank you for asking this question. As @HelixSpiral is busy at the moment he has given me the go ahead of answering this question in the name of both of us. I will be using the bits of our steam conversation that he has given me permission to use(because I like to ask first) as well as the deathscene between you and Bambibreaker. This particular kill that you made against Bambi is by all accounts RDM like I have told you previously. The only reason Helix told you otherwise is because you have failed to describe the situation properly, as you have failed to do so again here. Yes you did, and the reason for doing so is very clear when you take a look at the proper deathscene. Spoiler: Deathscene My thoughts on this issue have already been stated.However the sentence above is wrong as the lead admin only said it wasn't based on your flawed explanation. After a proper conversation both the "admin at the time" and the lead admin have concluded that it was in fact RDM( As shown by the screenshots below) Spoiler: Steam Convo pt.1 Spoiler: Steam Convo pt2 As you can see now, things are a little bit different than you made them appear to be. You have probably never bumped into such situations during your previous tenure then.This type of scenario is not really that common so I can see why you wouldn't have any such knowledge. This was my first mistake in this situation. I somehow goofed up and typed what was supposed to be my whisper to you into adminchat instead as I was used to you being able to see it. (Proof below) Spoiler As you can see above I meant to tell you why I was leaving instead of leaving without notice.I do however find your attempt at painting my leave from the server as something else then it actually was and making me seem like a liar a bit disturbing. That is the only reason why I have even asked Bambi if he forgives you in the first place, because I wished to avoid a possible forum report if I were to slay you and then get off but it seems that I managed to avoid nothing in the end. I should have known better from the start. I am unsure if this was a genuine Q & A or just an attempt at attention and/or you trying to stir up issues where there are none but either way the answer is simple. In this particular instance you kill on Bambi is ,as Helix said, "toxic gameplay at best". If a player just ID's one body and then really does ignore any other UNID'd in the vicinity then it is not RDM. For a more details here is what Helix had to say in order to justify why this is RDM: Spoiler: Reasoning Thank you for your time.
My added question to this is if, in an almost identical scenario, you don't know how long the other person has been at the first Unid'd body, can you still kill them?
You'd need to ascertain whether or not they're ignoring the body, as: Keep in mind that just because you can doesn't mean you should.
