vanilla is blatantly pay to win

Discussion in 'TTT Suggestions' started by Hongo, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Hongo

    Hongo VIP


    these are guns that are renowned as 'traitor weapons' in older servers, but here, if you donate you get to spawn with em!
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  2. wink

    wink strangers like me Administrator VIP Emerald

    Thanks for the observation?

    In the past an update caused the vip weapons to spawn everywhere and it was quickly patched back to normal; the current setup is quite intentional. Regardless of opinions, this very intentional setup isn’t changing anytime soon.
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  3. Bruh we aren't "older servers" lmfao
    And you are VIP so why are you even complaining?
    Also if you read the rules that pop up every time you join a server
  4. Hongo

    Hongo VIP

    So this is a P2W server thanks for the confirmation
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  5. Hongo

    Hongo VIP

    yes, im a vip, and from my position of vip i am stating this is pay to win.
    and honestly idk why you even included that snippet from the rules, it has nothing to do with anything.
  6. Pacifist

    Pacifist Bat out of Hell Lead Admin VIP Bronze

    wink is correct. This is intentional and we are not going to change it anytime soon.
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  7. Hongo

    Hongo VIP

    its kinda shitty that you guys are intentionally making it pay to win (in 2019 no less) and not even offering to balance these guns
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  8. Stop whinging.

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  9. Hongo

    Hongo VIP

    are you a ... shill?
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  10. Wolfy53

    Wolfy53 VIP

    I think one thing we can all be happy about is that the DB is not in the VIP loadout selection like it was before for a while.
  11. Pacifist

    Pacifist Bat out of Hell Lead Admin VIP Bronze

    Vanilla was created to be an alternative to our modded servers. Without cosmetics there is really no donator incentives. To keep it as vanilla as possible, pointshop is disabled. With this loadouts became one of the only incentives on vanilla.
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  12. Mr. Disco

    Mr. Disco Jeff Lynne is a musical genius. VIP

    while this might be true, would a buff to some useless weapons like the mac-10 or aug be an option?
  13. Hongo

    Hongo VIP

    thats what im saying, they should rebalance them but theyre not even offering to.
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  14. Humancowcakes❄

    Humancowcakes❄ #Freezomborg#Freezomborg#Freezomborg#Freezomborg:) Moderator MVP

    tf those guns are good what are you on
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  15. BlueGalaxy

    BlueGalaxy VIP Emerald

    Are you fucking joking?
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  16. Hongo

    Hongo VIP

    the mp5 isnt good and could use a buff. the Vector could use a buff. The modded m16 should just be removed altogether; the vanilla m16 is a better gun. Modded m16 is basically just a retextured hk416
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  17. Humancowcakes❄

    Humancowcakes❄ #Freezomborg#Freezomborg#Freezomborg#Freezomborg:) Moderator MVP

    last I checked vector wasn't in vanilla
  18. Hongo

    Hongo VIP

    ya but while we're on the topic of buffs i thought i'd throw those in.

    as for vanilla, the aug and mp5 could use buffs. AK and shotgun desperately need nerfing.
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  19. Dani

    Dani Impersonating Staff VIP

    You know it's a shitty thread when you have to scroll down to post #11 to get to the first actual attempt at countering the point made in the OP.

    Like, look at this:

    What is this spam post? You didn't make a counter argument and simply repeated what some other guy said?

    It is totally pay to win and there is no arguing that, but I guess it's a necessary evil to get donations from the people who only play Vanilla. If there's seriously people who play on this server enough to decide to give money to it and at the same time still don't wanna bother downloading a texture pack so they can play on our actual servers, then let them have their fun killing 12-year-olds who just wanna play on Minecraft maps all day. It brings money to the community and keeps the garbage contained in the Vanilla servers. That's the way I personally see it and I'm content with this as a result.

    But yeah, there is absolutely no way anyone can deny that these servers are at least slightly pay to win and that this is intrinsically a bad thing.
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  20. .shirt

    .shirt VIP

    Shotgun is the most op gun in vanilla and there’s dozens of them on the map so I don’t see why you’re complaining
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