Undo the hacking punishment revert

Discussion in 'TTT Suggestions' started by Siddo❄, Jan 3, 2019.

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Which protocol do you want for hacking?

  1. 1st offense = perma global

    15 vote(s)
    18.5%
  2. 1st = 4 week global, 2nd+ = perma global

    47 vote(s)
    58.0%
  3. 1st = 4 week global, 2nd+ 2x previous ban & global

    9 vote(s)
    11.1%
  4. 1st = 4 week local, 2nd+ = 2x previous ban & globa

    10 vote(s)
    12.3%
  1. Glyph

    Glyph Steyr AUG Fetishist VIP

    I don’t know that that’s really how a persons mindset works. A person who comes in with the intent to hack and mess with people is as likely to evade a 2 week ban vs a perma in my opinion. It’s not like the length of the ban is some big insult to someone who’s already trolling anyway. Both are the same roadblock to the hacker’s desire for instant gratification and he will probably more or less behave the same regardless. I don’t think an instant perma is the right idea but I still stand behind 2w global then perma.
     
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  2. Scuffed Water

    Scuffed Water Im Back my sons Moderator VIP Bronze

    I have to agree with this one. Two time offenders of hacking should not be welcome here, if they were interested in playing they would not be repeat offenders of such a problem causing rule violation.
     
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  3. Pacifist

    Pacifist Cynically Insane VIP Bronze

    I could have swore I responded to this. One of the issues caused by the perma ban hacking thing was that lead admins couldn't handle the backlog of constant vetting that came with the permabans. Often times the bans just sat collecting dust just waiting to be pushed through. Considering the general size of the staff team, I don't think this is effective at this moment. Not saying Teroxa and Mango are incompetent or that they can't handle the bans, it would just become a major part of their duties and distract them from things that actually matter.

    I'm not particularly against this for any kind of moral reasons, just the logistics.
     
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  4. (ØČĐ)™ Atlas ︻デ═一

    (ØČĐ)™ Atlas ︻デ═一 Always Gray ︻デ═一 VIP

    Hackers should get no lieniency
     
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  5. jshore

    jshore Banned MVP

    ironic considering im perma'd on SB for silly shit
     
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  6. Siddo❄

    Siddo❄ Dork VIP Bronze

    This is a fair point. I'd say, if the issue is logistics, admins can (should be able to) determine conclusive hacking from sketchy gameplay. And by that same token, a change could be made to enable permabanning for admins in the case of hacking. That would solve the issue of the workload distracting leads and or building up. I'm sure other solutions exist that don't require enabling permabans for admins, but that seemed like the easiest counter to the issue.

    Just as recent years have seen a push to give moderators more freedom and power, I think you could easily give admins more duties and power to smooth out the workload. Both in general and in relation to implementing this.
     
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  7. Glyph

    Glyph Steyr AUG Fetishist VIP

    I don't really know why admins wouldn't have the ability to permaban. It's not like permabans are especially difficult to fix or something; if they abuse it to randomly permaban players, they probably would have otherwise just done the max ban lengths could have, and either way within that timeframe the ban will be removed and voided and the admin will be demoted. No security reason that admins can't have permaban power.
     
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  8. danstorm

    danstorm VIP

    The votes have spoken.
     
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  9. Zuko

    Zuko Elite

    I agree with @Siddo❄ here. Fuck hackers. I have actually seen complaints about people having to play with 3-4 hackers.
     
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  10. Timo654

    Timo654 +1 my mod app VIP Silver

    lets just make hacking 1st offense a 24h local ban and 2nd offense a 48h local ban and then 2x longer for other offenses.

    if they get banned they find out they're discovered so they will never hack again. now they can just get in game faster again to never hack again and play on the servers, which makes the playerbase bigger and keeps the servers alive for longer.

    mods won't have to deal with hacking evidence that much either cause who will appeal a 1 day hacking ban anyways.

    add this option to the poll too @Siddo❄, thanks.
     
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  11. Tedelicious

    Tedelicious The knight in white armor Moderator MVP Silver

    Timo only made this post for winner votings
     
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  12. Timo654

    Timo654 +1 my mod app VIP Silver

    u made ur post only for disagree ratings
     
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