Investigating Report against wink

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by Indy226, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. Indy226

    Indy226 VIP

    Name of Staff/Player:
    wink
    Steam ID of Staff/Player:
    u have it
    Your Steam ID:
    unneeded
    Which Server:
    Vanilla
    Which Map:
    all servers
    Which Round:
    all servers
    Time of Occurence:
    4:08 pm UTC +1
    Reason For Report:
    Heyo, so wink banned me from all servers for "recent trouble making"
    and spam in chat.
    I'm guilty of the spam in chat on Vanilla but how does this lead to 5 day ban on all servers?
    I would love to hear this linked up trouble making the staff team speaks of.
    The harassment was both ways
    Mic spam wasn't often or at all sometimes and i stopped after being warned
    I never chat spam. The report against me was the first time in forever that i've chat spammed.
    Porno stuff was something i learned from in 1st and 2nd offense, 3rd wasn't even intentional, it was an accident. Which jabba understood when he reduced my ban
    I do come on to have fun as you do but how does this warrant a 5 day ban for things other people start? Because i reacted means im in trouble? I noticed u mentioned a name on the report vader which leads me to believe you and him are friends and you are looking at only his side. And also you stated

    "We get you are on here to have fun, but your version of "fun" is conflicting with our rulesheets and enjoyments of other regulars, such as -vader-" - wink

    So because i responded to vader in my manner which wasn't at all in a harassing way. And who are other regulars I've harassed. I've been harassed by alotta of regulars. All of whom never get punished. I get banned for 5 days on all servers. This took place on Vanilla. And to a minor extent the forums. Idk how you think banning me is gonna fix the problem. Talking to me and telling me these things would be way better. Banning me does not fix the problem.​
    Evidence And/Or Witnesses:
    @wink for his side
    @Pacifist for a lead admin
    @lil pumpkin for another lead admin

    Anyone else who wants to express their opinions feel free to pm me and i will listen with intent and take note​
     
  2. Irish

    Irish You are not immune to propaganda. Administrator Elite

  3. wink

    wink strangers like me Administrator VIP Emerald

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDG2m5hN1vo

    Since returning to vanilla on 10/10 from your Porn 3rd offense:

    Your responses on the forum to vader had nothing to do with this ban, I was simply citing the fact that your constant rule breaking behavior makes the game less fun for everyone else.

    This is a pure and unadulterated discretionary ban that you earned. You claim to learn from your last ban with Jabba, so I don't see how you can't learn from this one from me.
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2019
  4. Bork

    Bork VIP

    • Do not post in reports you are not involved in.
    If I can throw in two cents here...

    He's full of it about stopping when "warned". The only time he doesn't spam is when there's a mod present on the servers. Makes the entire experience pretty abysmal on the servers, especially when other people join in on his autism.
     
    • Do not post in reports you are not involved in.
    This guy is mentally ill. I can vouch :D
    I joined the server for 3 min and left because of his incredible autism powers.
     
  5. ThePaleRider

    ThePaleRider Active Member

    im not sure what happened, but uh... Indy has been fairly good at stopping the "spam" that he does when warned or gagged. if 2seconds of him repeating something someone else said first is enough to get him gagged(ive seen this happen more often than not), then in my opinion, you need to change your rules a bit.
    Also, responding to someone who is bitching at you or who is insulting you should not be grounds for a gag/mute, even if what they say goes on for a bit. Also, ive been informed that calling "rdm rounds" is not against the rules.

    To be honest, this seems like you got upset and abused your power as a mod, especially for giving a global ban for 5 days.
    As far as im aware, global bans cannot be given for mic spam or chat spam. Usually its an 8-hour or a 1-day ban. Adding on (+history) to the end of it is just a BS reason to extend the ban.

    basically what im saying is that Wink acted unprofessionally in this matter and that Indy should be unbanned, or at least remove the Global ban.
     
  6. wink

    wink strangers like me Administrator VIP Emerald

    Try reading the !motd next time you decide to go for a warning point @Goldengaming2015 , clearly stated there that punishment is subject to change via an admins discretion.
     
  7. Indy226

    Indy226 VIP

    He has witness testimony which he is presenting in chat, how is he getting a warning? If an admin can make whatever punishment he/she wants then i guess this community has gone downhill
     
  8. Indy226

    Indy226 VIP

    Calling rdm rounds isn't against the rules, after all if the person rdms then thats their fault. As by the logic of calling koses on detectives.

    Targeted harassment/slurs? is saying ni**a against the rules? Is saying "Falco gag the person whose mic spamming" against the rules? or should i say "harassment".

    Spam is really the only rules ive broken ever since being unbanned.
     
  9. wink

    wink strangers like me Administrator VIP Emerald

    Causing extensive rule breaking by encouraging RDM as a detective is considered toxic, which can be punished via discretion. You aren’t being held liable for the rdm, you are being held liable for knowingly encouraging others to break our rule sets.
    Not sure the exact scenario you got going with that second statement, but it is targeted harassment to call someone a nigger via pm, assuming they take offense to it.


    Read our commenting on report rules, if he was giving facts/evidence of some sort, he would be okay, but he literally just commented his opinion with incorrect rule knowledge cited.
     
  10. Indy226

    Indy226 VIP

    I never called rdm rounds as detective or in the round, either i call them in pre round or i call them as a t.

    I called him a nigger because i responded to his insult of "imagine being so bad that you RDM innocently"

    Um hello he was giving his facts on me which makes him a witness to me stopping once im warned about spam.
     
  11. wink

    wink strangers like me Administrator VIP Emerald

    Calling rdm rounds/encouraging rdm rounds before the round is just as just as toxic as calling them during the round, as you are still encouraging people to break our rule sets. There’s literally no excuse for it champ, not sure how I can get your head out of dirt on this one.

    He got warned too, and that doesn’t justify you calling him a nigger. Report and move on next time, especially with your history.

    We have a stickied thread you can read with our posting on reports rules, try giving that a glance if you still think he was justified.
     
  12. Indy226

    Indy226 VIP

    I call them sometimes before the round but a majority of the time i call them on my t rounds as your allowed to make false koses and trick people to win my t round.

    He never got warned just so u know.

    I have glanced the rules and to me it looks like he was indirectly involved, as he was a witness and telling y'all that i do stop after being warned for spam.
    ^^ End this convo as its not relavent to the report
     
  13. Indy226

    Indy226 VIP

    Anyone gonna finish this up?
     
  14. Irish

    Irish You are not immune to propaganda. Administrator Elite

    please note these reports take time and be patient whilst its in progress
     
  15. Indy226

    Indy226 VIP

    Ok i know that these things take time but the fact its now day 28 and this report still hasn't been handled and at this point theres gonna be no evidence to my claims.
    Considering that the report against Jabba was handled within 3 days of being reported ( that report was 25 days ago ) makes me think this was an intentional delay.
     
  16. wink

    wink strangers like me Administrator VIP Emerald

    We would gain nothing but bad PR for “intentionally delaying” a report based on admin discretion, that’s skeptical to the point of ironical hilarity. None of this evidence is based on old logs, and this will be handled as soon as possible
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2019 at 3:20 PM
  17. Indy226

    Indy226 VIP

    Honestly u can just deny this report it was long ago and its pointless for the hassle.
    I'm fine with this report being denied