Invalid Report against Temar

Name of Staff/Player:

Temar​

Steam ID of Staff/Player:

STEAM_0:0:5119023​

Your Steam ID:

na​

Which Server:

West 1​

Which Map:

na​

Which Round:

na​

Time of Occurence:

one week ago​

Reason For Report:

Okay so, I was banned for "toxic gameplay" under the pretenses of me "rdming 2 AFKs" and one other guy which was a legitimate RDM.

So what happened? Well, as explained to Temar through PMs

Spoiler: the alibi

So to explain, someone killed one person in the attic of Clue, leaving 3 other people alive. He proceeded to runaway and not ID the body, or kill the others(and he had time to). I know he didn't see me because he did not attempt to shoot at me. Whether he was revenge RDMing or what, I'm not sure of. Anyway I proceeded to nade three AFK people who were innocent. Before I've experience a traitor killing an innocent AFK and not his traitor buddies, so applying the GBA rule I kill the AFKs which happen to be traitors, so I applied the same thought when I naded them. I did get reported and did kindly apologize to the guy. Honestly I feel this ban is unfair as that was purely accidental and a mishap (I feel you guys need to enforce a AFK rule, after 2-3 rounds of being AFK to FSPEC the people so shit like this doesn't happen again), I don't really try to get banned as SGM is the only community that has a decent TTT server around.

The only unfortunate thing was those AFKs were innocent. I proceeded the round as any other round, and did my duty as a detective, and got very close to killing a traitor...until an inno closed a door and got me killed by a traitor. Smh.
Anyway, I did not troll, abuse, or break any rules whatsoever after that event, which does prove I was not being a troll and or toxic. If I was, Trashman would have surely added that into my appeal thus backing the "toxic gameplay" ban.

Here is the screenshotted information:
https://i.gyazo.com/4bf6842127cad2c03875494af5e99a88.png

This will also disprove any "You saw the logs and created a story based off of what happened."-- No, that alibi, is what happened, word for word, action for action.

Now to be a man and stake some claim on mistakes I made, yes I did forget to notify that I was throwing a frag, which resulted in a crossfire incident. Now I received and accepted that slay as I was at fault. Resulting in a 4 man kill, which I did admit to Trashman that I was at fault for that one guy getting killed. Though I did explain to him that the 3 people I fragged were GBA'd.

Why did I use that frag?

Well to be quite honest, the killer did run, but in fear he was still around, as a detective, I threw the frag to kill those other GBA'd people, and backed up a distance, so if I were to be attacked by the killer, I would not be in a position of futility.

Now I'm reporting Temar for the reason of an unjustified ban and if reportable, for avoiding an appeal until the ban expired. As his response to the appeal lacks any sort of evidence to really claim I was "toxic". If there were to be the death scene of the first victim down when the round began, it would show me approaching, next up reviewing the death scene would reveal me ID'ing the UNID'd body sitting right next to 3 people who were AFK and now became GBA, thus showing with enough reason, and under the extended rules that I had the right to kill them.

Here in the extended rules it shows that AFK's are liable to traitorous acts.
https://i.gyazo.com/bbf5b81a5bbc8298c117d1a0be94f424.png
--None of those AFK's were my detective buddies.

It also goes to show here:
I did give those AFK players a few seconds to react to see if they were truly AFK, they were. Now traitors have a reputation of not killing their AFK t-buddies (duh) and only killing the innos around them. As mods and admins have done the same, including our friend Temar.
https://i.gyazo.com/64ec19413a480ceab54079baad3a395e.png

Temar lacked to respond to that appeal until the ban's expiration, specifically shown in this report, he was active during the appeals posted date, and after. Here's some proof of that too.
He was also the one to tell me to appeal.

https://i.gyazo.com/cc3e06b1acbc4c28e741199b83d6675e.png
https://i.gyazo.com/30d9fe7743530ad689256a2457df3ce0.png
https://i.gyazo.com/672ea8be480ca9de1b1180c55dfb602f.png
https://i.gyazo.com/855c0c0c984332e8008c2c6b8082059f.png

His response and declination of an already expired ban was vague, there was not enough evidence to even back up the claim, and watching the story change from 3 AFKs to 2 AFKs that he and "other admins" claimed to be "RDM". (Whether other admins did have a say in it, they definitely did not have the correct information, so of course would agree with the ban under the wrong information). Again, lacking any sort of evidence and only a screenshot or two of what transpired isn't enough to warrant such a hefty ban. As I did not kill any innocents that round after the GBA'd ones, and or cause and shitfest to start, or break any other rules. His evidence only backs my story, how? It covers for it log by log, and this was long before I saw any evidence of the log history.
His response lacked, his evidence lacks, the ban is unjustified.


His lead can pull evidence of further forum browsing and server play activity.

In all, there was no solidified evidence to extend a karma ban, which I received due to the incident, to warrant a "toxic gameplay" ban. Mainly because there is no evidence for such a ban. My previous bans also do not warrant such a reason, as a couple were debated, and one being from a mod who was known to abuse their power. As I already dealt the week of the ban, I need action taken against Temar to prevent such a situation like this again. There are ex-mods, mods, and players who are well versed in the rules who also feel conflicted about the ban, understanding the slight reasoning of toxicity, but not agreeing with the evidence and actions brought to the stand, was enough to warrant a ban. A karma ban was enough, despite the GBA not being my exact fault.

I also want just @Teroxa and or Highwon to handle this report.​

Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

There are a few people who have seen my ban and other evidence and reasoning around it. If permitted by a mod+, please let them share their opinion on the matter to show I'm not the only one person thinking this.


edit:
adding to report, avoiding to acknowledge the report. He's clearly been active.
Seems like Temar is avoiding this report(not even acknowledged):
https://i.gyazo.com/d7e37a0b3cd7f778e701772fd0bd495e.png
https://i.gyazo.com/c8644b5e7ff3c620ba7e6f50271889cc.png
https://i.gyazo.com/ebc627115519e8814468cc60bd4b2bfd.png
https://i.gyazo.com/763e77ea9527ccde9a38bfed4e44d090.png
https://i.gyazo.com/756e75fff9ee6f38a4f86d8df5b97930.png​

 

@Temar I wanna see what happens with this.

 

@Temar
Hey buddy, it's time to stop ignoring this report.



You're clearly active, man up and put in your side of the story.

 

Heya,

I’ve only been back on the administration team for a few days, but from what I understand this ban was actually discussed and decided by several parties before it was placed,@Highwon included. Temar only placed the ban after such a decision was made. As such, it might take a little longer to address your concerns due to that, and the burden of response doesn’t solely lie on one person. Sorry for the lack of communication on that up to now.

 

Thank you for acknowledging the report, assisting where your colleague failed at.

 

Hello there A Salt Ed.

First of all I would like to apologize that this report was not handled sooner. I also apologize on behalf of the administration as we did not communicate well enough why you were banned. I will try to outline it really quickly for you. Normally you can kill AFKs if they witness a traitorous act, however, in this case you abused that GBA to kill not one, but three innocents. At this point the administration had a discussion and ultimately came to the conclusion that what you had done was in fact toxic gameplay. It seemed more likely than not that you were going after and killing the AFKs simply because you had a reason to do so, and your name at the time was a heavy indicator that you wished to do harm.

I do agree though, this should have been handled quicker and Temar should have at least given more information to you, but seeing as this wasn't really his ban (he was just the man who executed the command) he probably did not feel comfortable giving too much information away. Thank you for the report, but I see no further action needed.

⚜️Invalid⚜️​