Completed Report against Temar

Name of Staff/Player:

Temar​

Steam ID of Staff/Player:

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Your Steam ID:

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Which Server:

Vanilla​

Which Map:

mc motel​

Which Round:

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Time of Occurence:

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Reason For Report:

I assume Temar sees this coming. His slay on me after killing him was completely justified. I didn't check the body of the T he rdm'd.

He RDM'd a player and used the information I gave him to get out of it on the report I assume was filed on him.

He assumed the player pushed him into the water, then changed his reasoning to GBA. You can even see that he didn't witness the act. Its a crowbar true, but he had no information on who was around him. You can even hear him being unsure in the video. Considering I never saw him get slayed, I assumed he used my info to call GBA.

Also funny he called GBA without being able to identify the player who actually committed the act.



And for the clincher,

Pushing players off heights that can cause damage, near edges or near map hazards:

• This includes all types of pushing: Crowbar pushing, Riot Shield pushing, prop pushing, etc.
• This also includes pushing AFK players into water, after they start drowning.

This is more anecdotal, but still a serious question that is potentially defining in the rule set. I'll tag the leads for this question since its quite interesting in my opinion and bears relevance on this case.

Since he truly wasn't AFK (he did appear so, but was not actually), pushing him into the water wouldn't have hurt him. Seeing as how he took no damage.... Are we to now be able to KOS anyone who pushes a player into water they could drown in? I've always operated under the assumption that the player pushed must take damage first.

I'd listen to the whole video, including voice chat. It spells out the scenario and the evolution of the response.​

Evidence And/Or Witnesses:

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@Temar
@Noob999

For the question at the end:
@HelixSpiral
@Graze
@wink

 

Funny, his crowbar never animiates and a sound is never produced. Do you have the report I assume he filed, and the shot logs?

 

Heya,

I just reviewed your question in this case- I haven't reviewed the case against Temar.

But no, you do not need to wait for the player to begin taking damage in order for you to call them out. Pushing a player that is AFK, or appears to be AFK (we treat this the same), in to water is enough to be considered a traitorous act.

 

Then this needs to be edited.

This also includes pushing AFK players into water, after they start drowning.

 

Gonna retag @Noob999 To conclude as the evidence has been presented.

 

Hello Enemy "Rule Bot" Below, The crowbar is unique when it comes to GBA as it's a melee weapon and he had to of seen it happen or be in his view if turned around, as he was right next to Temar at the time.
The is a error in wording with the crowbar push rule that will be fixed.

I find this report invalid.
If you have anything to add please start a conversation on the forum with me.

 

Update...

Hello again Enemy "Rule Bot" Below.
After review of this case by my lead admin my ruling was incorrect https://www.seriousgmod.com/threads/report-against-temar-noob999.48296/#post-505262

Temar will serve a slay for his RDM.

Report valid.