Invalid Report against Night and J3kawesome

Discussion in 'TTT Staff/Player Reports' started by ViperLumin, Apr 8, 2021.

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  1. Name of Staff/Player:
    Night and J3kawesome
    Steam ID of Staff/Player:
    STEAM_0:0:435342959 for Night and STEAM_0:0:127554210 for J3k
    Your Steam ID:
    Which Server:
    East 1
    Which Map:
    67th way
    Which Round:
    Can't remember
    Time of Occurence:
    Idk. 10:45-11:00 pm EST?
    Reason For Report:
    So. I Warned J3k not to go somewhere since I threw incens there. J3k reported me, then asked where'd I warn him. I said in voice, and at least 3 other people confirmed I warned him. Night hops on and Slays me anyways. If imma get slain for this type of shit even after warning, I demand my donation money back and you can ban me if you wish. This is not acceptable in the fucking slightest. Either get this fucking shit dealt with or give me back my damn money.​
    Evidence And/Or Witnesses:
  2. j3kawesome

    j3kawesome "mestimate" - Indy226 Administrator VIP Silver

  3. Lunar

    Lunar 8:00PM VIP Silver

    Just saying I've seen this and will respond when given the time. (y)
  4. Oh shit, uhh I was just kidding by saying that, sorry for the trouble

    I was playing without audio so I don't know if he actually said it
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  5. j3kawesome

    j3kawesome "mestimate" - Indy226 Administrator VIP Silver

    Alright I'm gonna break down what happened my side of this - I was the one to make the report not handle it as Night was the one who did it but I will put forward my point of view

    So I enter the room [Did not see you drop a grenade into the portal] then I dropped a frag grenade into the portal and then turned to shoot you (due to the fact that I was a traitor)

    Your so called warning was just saying "don't" right before I killed you

    I proceeded to jump through the portal only to get absolutely shredded by the incendiary grenade


    I'll leave the rest of the report to @Night to finish his side (he should have the screenshot of the actual report) and if @Frogdoggo can he has a recording at the time of the incident of the voice chat

    @Jabba the Slut I have concluded my side - It is up to you after this point
  6. j3kawesome

    j3kawesome "mestimate" - Indy226 Administrator VIP Silver

    Also, just a side note to this comment
    We do not give refunds on donations as stated on our store page or give out bans on request
  7. I mentioned the ban since night said Id get banned for the refund. Proof here >

    If no refund then I want this dealt with. One way or another it ain't right. I already got a bad view on night since the first time I joined it seemed he was doing a lot of abuse of power. Blinding people and shit then killing them when he was T. Not a great first impression in the slightest.
  8. j3kawesome

    j3kawesome "mestimate" - Indy226 Administrator VIP Silver

    Ahh Night was talking about if you chargeback the purchase which will lead to a Perma Ban which is also stated on our store page as I will quote below
    Also even though I am not Night's admin I am very curious about this comment you made and if you could elaborate on how he "blinded" people
  9. I forgot the map. But its the one where people jumped on the edge of a gate to get on a roof you normally can't access. Night was there then my vision and Meat's vision got extremely blurry and was waving everywhere. No health was being taken during that in case it was teargas. Then Night shot both of us and killed us.

    This again was back on the first night I played on the server.
  10. j3kawesome

    j3kawesome "mestimate" - Indy226 Administrator VIP Silver

    Ahhh so this part of the report is a misunderstanding
    This is a Traitor Weapon called the Tear Gas Grenade. It creates this altered visual state - If night was able to kill you there is a high likelihood that he had the perk that prevents you from being blinded by your own tear gas grenade

    EDIT: Here is a screenshot of what tear gas looks like on the map
    The slightly blurred areas are where the tear gas is in effect
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2021
  11. What about when someone is in the teargas?
  12. Titan

    Titan SGM's official music nerd Administrator VIP Bronze

    you get very blinded very quickly. this is a function of the game.

    i have seen this.
  13. j3kawesome

    j3kawesome "mestimate" - Indy226 Administrator VIP Silver

  14. Jabba the Slut

    Jabba the Slut That's Kinky! Lead Admin VIP Silver

    Upon reviewing the side of this against my administrator I have found no wrongdoings on his end. He just filed a report after being killed.

    I didn't see you respond to the POV provided by j3k above, but assuming the warning you gave is the "don't" shown in the video, it does not constitute a proper warning.

    Also for future reference, as an innocent you must meet two criteria when throwing grenades to get off with crossfire:

    1. You must give a valid warning. (Preferably five seconds before you throw the grenade, also give details as to where you are throwing it.)
    2. You must be throwing it with intent to kill.

    This is all outlined in our Extended Rules, which you can find HERE.

    This is the relevant portion for this situation.

    Because you are a newer player I of course recommend that you read through our Extended Rules, as they can give a lot of insight and prevent these situations from arising. If you find there are any rules you disagree with, you can make a suggestion HERE to have them changed.

    Report Invalid against @j3kawesome .
  15. Frogdoggo

    Frogdoggo Member

    I will reply with it when I can
  16. yeah I was trolling when I said I heard you warn him. I wasn't even ur T buddy lol, I thought you would pick that up so I have 0 proof to help you
  17. Lunar

    Lunar 8:00PM VIP Silver

    I'll respond in the next few hours, got everything I need (y)
  18. Lunar

    Lunar 8:00PM VIP Silver

    It's time to get juicy or something.

    Before I begin, I would just like to say that I do not abuse this "Blind" command that you are talking about, it does exist however Moderators do not have access to it, and even if we did why would I risk my position just because I wanna win a single round. Teargas is a Traitor weapon, there are 2 levels for the upgrade in the pointshop, I have both of the upgrades. Also letting you know that the server has a No Refund Policy, and refunding the purchase of your rank would get you permabanned so I would highly recommend you to not refund your rank.

    So let's begin at the start, on the 5th round of 67thway V14, you were reported by j3kawesome for the reason of throwing an Incendiary Grenade into the Barnhouse teleport hole which ended up killing j3k.


    So what can we determine from this?
    At 10 seconds you threw the Incendiary grenade into the hole out of sight from j3k coming from his perspective from this incident at Considering you were out of sight, j3k would have never known that you had thrown the incendiary into the hole. However, in your response, we can see that you had "warned" j3k. Looking back at his perspective, this "warning" that you gave was simply the word "Don't." Now let's look at the guidelines for Warning players and teammates.


    • Did you warn j3k if you were about to use an item/trap that could damage him? No, you had thrown the grenade before he had even entered the room and never warned in chat or in voice chat when you were going to throw the grenade.
    • Did you give a precise location and gave j3k enough time to get out of the area? No, saying just the word "Don't" does not give a precise location as to where you had thrown your grenade, and did not give j3k enough time to realize that you were going to throw the grenade into the hole.
    • Did you give at least five seconds for j3k to react to what you were about to do? No, you didn't say anything in chat or invoice.

    Going from these guidelines, you had failed to do three of the six (The rest of them are mostly for traitors) guidelines to give a sufficient warning for j3k.

    It is also important to note that YoAmTrash and DoubleCaret pretty much memed you into including them into this report, as both of them had basically jokingly said that they heard the warning. You might've said the warning out loud, but returning back to the perspective on j3k, you most likely cut off what you were saying which lead to you only saying "Don't" for the rest of the players on the server at the time.

    So basically to conclude everything, you had failed to correctly warn j3k for your incendiary grenade, leading to your slay.

    I'll be tagging my admin @Titan to finish things up on my end.
  19. Titan

    Titan SGM's official music nerd Administrator VIP Bronze

    Time to get down to brass tacks.

    Just like my moderator did, I'll address the abuse claim first. While ulx blind does exist, it most certainly is not granted access to the staff team of a primarily TTT community. Night did not abuse his moderator privileges to gain an upper hand. He was simply playing the game.

    Onto the actual report, I really don't have much to add. Night said everything that needs to be said. You failed to follow all of the protocols for giving proper warning to your teammates as an innocent. Not only did you 1) not warn before throwing, 2) were not specific with your warn, or 3) gave a proper time barrier, but you also seemingly did not have a genuine reason to have thrown the grenade in the first place. Even if you had gotten out the entire phrase "don't jump down," it still would not have been a sufficient, nor valid warning.

    Apologies that the report did not go your favor. Just like Jabba did, I suggest you read the extended rules so you're better equipped to handle these types of scenarios in the future.

    If you take issue with this, feel free to reach out to me here or on discord: Titan#4581. Thanks, have a good one.

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