Invalid Report against LethalFrogger, JackieTheWolf

Discussion in 'Archived Minecraft Staff/Player Reports' started by Boulja Boy Tell 'Em, Mar 9, 2017.

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  1. Name of Staff/Player:
    LethalFrogger, JackieTheWolf
    UUID of Staff/Player:
    86e7b45b-4e3d-422a-896f-9b7dd3b109ec, e014e9a0-635f-4275-be78-51d7824c99d5
    Your In Game Nickname:
    silverdill
    Time of Occurrence:
    ~4-5 PM EST
    Reason for Report:
    Harassment​
    Evidence And/Or Witnesses:
    According to Jackie and his crew I'm being punished for taking the wrong side in some war I had never even heard of before between them and emptysnake. That means they have to pay Lethal and maybe others to destroy my pyramid (96x96, never claimed) and later my house (temporarily partially unclaimed), spending multiple in-game days tearing everything around me down and opening me up to attacks, forcing me to move so I don't get killed or robbed by these players or mobs, even though I'm sure they'll find me again and wait for another opportunity.

    When Jackie came on they figured they'd taunt me to the tune of "heard you were building a pyramid, let me see it, what happened to it?" knowing full well they had it torn down for no reason other than to bother me. Lethal admitted in chat that they were being paid $50000 in-game money to provide proof of my house being demolished, hopefully there's chat logs of all this.

    I don't know if this falls neatly under the harassment rules as technically they only destroyed unclaimed blocks but the intent is clear, they're trying to ruin my game experience for some personal vendetta only known to them.

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  2. Kemal

    Kemal VIP Emerald

    I want to post some more evidence related to this.

    Lethal admitting he is being paid to destroy silverdill's farm and that they are targetting him, because he sided with emptysnake:
    [22:15:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Emerald] ~Lethal: cuz you sided with empty
    [22:16:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Emerald] ~Lethal: he sided with emtpy so we de dis
    [22:57:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Emerald] ~Lethal: im being paid 50k to do this

    I'd also like to add that devs have clarified that unclaimed land is fair game, but I feel like purposefully destroying someones base not because you need the materials, but because of what they said is close to harassment.

    (I uploaded the full logs.)
     

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    Last edited: Mar 9, 2017
  3. EDIT: Just realized I could just go into the lil logs folder and get what came before that, duh. I'm quick like that.

    (NOTE) The end of this first spoiler is when I abandoned part of my house. The pyramid is right by the house and had been destroyed by them long before, and no one was in the area at this point. Lethal is lying in his reply, they didn't just happen upon it unclaimed, they came back at least once looking for something to do to me and my space.

    [12:50:29] [Emerald] ~Savannah: noooo gamer:(
    [12:50:37] [Emerald] ~Savannah: dont leave me ily

    [12:50:50] [Emerald] ~satanichia: i still dont get why hes leaving
    [12:51:05] [Emerald] ~rq: you're not here when the cancer is

    [12:51:40] [Emerald] ~satanichia: he speaked of someone called "jackie"
    [12:51:46] [Emerald] ~Savannah: wat he do now...

    [12:51:56] [Elite] ~Milo: what did Jackie do????
    [12:52:02] [Emerald] ~satanichia: WHO THE FUCK IS JACKIE
    [12:52:05] [Emerald] ~Savannah: XD
    [12:52:09] [Emerald] ~rq: well.. he's certainly a part of it.. but adix's group, staff that won't listen to the playerbase, trolls camping the nether ceiling, etc
    [12:52:16] silverdill: jackiethewolf i think
    [12:52:16] [Emerald] ~satanichia: whomstdve'd the fuck is jackie please elaborate

    [12:52:44] [Emerald] ~Savannah: lol

    [12:53:01] [Emerald] ~Savannah: jackie is a troll we all know that hahaha


    [13:43:08] [Emerald] ~Lethal: i have sandstone if you need it?

    [13:43:15] silverdill: i do
    [13:43:21] silverdill: the sandstone
    [13:43:50] [Emerald] ~Lethal: how much?
    [13:43:54] silverdill: whoa

    [13:44:10] silverdill: someone tore down my entire pyramid
    [13:44:12] silverdill: lol

    [13:44:30] [Emerald] ~Lethal: you had a pyramid?
    [13:44:40] silverdill: yes

    [13:45:00] [Emerald] ~Lethal: how long did it take you?

    [13:45:10] silverdill: a while

    [13:45:37] [Emerald] ~Lethal: damn that sucks
    [13:45:37] silverdill: 96x96

    [13:46:58] LethalFrogger auctions 704 Chiseled Sandstone for $1,000

    [13:47:49] [Emerald] ~Lethal: do you want it chiseled?


    [15:03:53] [SMC] [Emerald] ~Lethal has requested to teleport to you.

    [15:05:12] [SMC] JackieTheWolf joined the server.

    [15:06:32] JackieTheWolf: Hey silverdill, so you haven't been on in a while and I know you were building a pyramid, can I see it?
    [15:06:43] silverdill: lol


    [15:06:57] JackieTheWolf: What?

    [15:10:21] JackieTheWolf: So, silver?
    [15:10:34] silverdill: there is no pyramid
    [15:10:44] JackieTheWolf: what happened?

    [15:10:53] silverdill: i wonder

    [15:11:28] [Emerald] ~Lethal: i have like a couple k of sandstone if you need any?
    [15:11:44] JackieTheWolf: I actually don't know ;-;

    [15:21:47] [SMC] Claim abandoned.
    [15:21:47] [SMC] You now have 10693 available claim blocks.


    Thanks for the logs, I cut it down to just the more relevant parts, interactions between me and them and them explaining what the original beef was (that I was never remotely involved in).

    [22:13:30] [Emerald] ~Kemal: you dont have it claimed?
    [22:13:44] silverdill: i unclaimed like half my house
    [22:14:21] silverdill: someone's making it their mission to take my stuff apart lol
    [22:14:38] [Emerald] ~Kemal: i can claim it for you if you want
    [22:14:38] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: who is?
    [22:14:47] [Emerald] ~Kemal: and make it a subclaim
    [22:14:55] silverdill: probably jackie
    [22:15:02] [Elite] SirClutchhh: lol
    [22:15:12] [Emerald] ~Lethal: cuz you sided with empty
    [22:15:28] silverdill: i don't even know what there is to take sides in
    [22:15:32] [Emerald] ~Kemal: what did empty do then
    [22:15:37] silverdill: i don't give a shit about whatever war's going on
    [22:15:48] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: empty claimed a spot
    [22:15:53] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: near their giant community
    [22:16:00] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: and now they cant expand
    [22:16:01] silverdill: only interaction we had is he auctioned sand and I bought it
    [22:16:10] JackieTheWolf: No, deepsea
    [22:16:16] JackieTheWolf: He built his house ON our wall
    [22:16:19] [Emerald] ~Lethal: he sided with emtpy so we de dis

    [22:16:26] [Emerald] ~Kemal: pretty sure he cant do that

    [22:16:29] silverdill: how did I side with anyone
    [22:16:31] silverdill: please inform me
    [22:16:32] JackieTheWolf: He did, Kemal
    [22:16:38] JackieTheWolf: Mods and admins have done nothing

    [22:16:52] [Elite] SirClutchhh: it was against our claim like the next block over
    [22:16:58] [Emerald] ~Kemal: robo banned mankamal for building wall around his base and claiming it
    [22:17:26] [Elite] SirClutchhh: ya but the stafff team doesnt give a fuck about us :)

    [22:18:01] silverdill: can i stay over for a night kemal

    [22:18:11] [Emerald] ~Kemal: ok

    [22:18:39] [Emerald] ~Kemal: i dont you guys harrasing my supplier
    [22:18:46] [Emerald] ~Kemal: *appreciate

    [22:19:07] JackieTheWolf: This is emptysnakes base
    [22:19:14] JackieTheWolf: he built it basically ON our base
    [22:19:20] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: this is certainly a dick move
    [22:19:22] JackieTheWolf: Mhm.
    [22:19:29] [Emerald] ~Lethal: yea \
    [22:19:30] JackieTheWolf: And we tried to ask him nicely to leave, nothing
    [22:19:35] JackieTheWolf: We tried to force him out, nothing
    [22:19:36] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: but how did he find ur base in the first place?
    [22:19:40] [Elite] SirClutchhh: well
    [22:19:44] [Elite] SirClutchhh: its not hard to miss
    [22:19:55] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: then just expand all around him
    [22:20:02] JackieTheWolf: We were going to, but we can't block him in
    [22:20:03] [Elite] SirClutchhh: that would be against the rules
    [22:20:06] JackieTheWolf: ^

    [22:20:13] JackieTheWolf: So basically he screwed us
    [22:20:29] JackieTheWolf: And the mods/admins didn't do anything when we talked to him

    [22:20:36] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: what u mean by blocking u were gonna expand when u had the blocks to
    [22:20:47] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: and he decided to claim 1 block near u
    [22:20:51] JackieTheWolf: Yeah, but like we can't build a wall around him

    [22:20:57] JackieTheWolf: The mods told us we can't
    [22:21:05] JackieTheWolf: But he can build like this and its a-okay?
    [22:21:13] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: then Build it so that it has only 1 way out then

    [22:21:36] JackieTheWolf: We were planning to, but then its like.. we have this ugly wall blocking inside too
    [22:21:38] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: becuz honestly this is a dick move
    [22:21:50] JackieTheWolf: Yeah

    [22:22:06] JackieTheWolf: We've been slowly fighting back against him but then people take his side over ours because we're killing him

    [22:22:35] silverdill: do I get to know how I got roped into this
    [22:22:41] silverdill: considering I'm just learning about it
    [22:22:51] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: i was told empty was sally chen
    [22:22:56] JackieTheWolf: He/she is
    [22:23:18] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: :eek: he told u as well?
    [22:23:23] JackieTheWolf: And they've been warned for toxic behaviour and harassment multiple times, from what I understand, and no punishment
    [22:23:26] silverdill: they told everyone
    [22:23:35] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: :eek: then i wasnt here lol
    [22:23:36] [Emerald] ~Kemal: who the hell is sally chen
    [22:23:36] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: rip
    [22:23:45] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: just someone without a rank
    [22:23:49] [Emerald] Deepsea1508: but somehow now got elite
    [22:24:00] JackieTheWolf: Probably an alt

    [22:24:56] [Emerald] ~Kemal: silver
    [22:25:06] [Emerald] ~Kemal: i can claim your farm for you
    [22:25:17] [Emerald] ~Kemal: and subdivide it back to you
    [22:25:20] silverdill: they already tore down what wasn't claimed lol
    [22:26:10] silverdill: silly me taking sides without even knowing it
    [22:26:17] [Emerald] ~Kemal: ye
    [22:26:20] [Emerald] ~Kemal: how dare you

    [22:36:29] silverdill: what are you gaining here

    [22:36:45] silverdill: i meant lethal

    [22:55:48] [Emerald] ~Kemal: so why are you being an absolute bellend lethal

    [22:55:55] [Emerald] ~Kemal: you are harrasing him now

    [22:56:12] [Emerald] ~Lethal: i am slave labor

    [22:57:35] [Emerald] ~Lethal: im being paid 50k to do this
    [22:57:39] [Emerald] ~Kemal: by who

    [22:58:04] [Emerald] ~Lethal: it just has to be gone and i need to ss it to them
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2017
  4. Lethalfrogger

    Lethalfrogger VIP Emerald

    yeah there is more to this also sadly wasnt SSing but at the be gaining we had came across the pyramid while flying around noticed it wasnt claimed so we took it over assuming it was noones land since it wasnt claim then we noticed later on that the house wasnt claimed... so we started to take it down once we noticed it was his (he only had a quarter of it claimed for some reason) we had done much damage so we continued later on a player told us he was with EmptySnake(A player who has been pestering us and doing things like this to us for a long time) since we found out that he was with emptysnake(to our understanding) since this is a pvp survival environment we did what we could to defeat the competition and the being paid thing was just a random thing i said you can check my /balance. The following SS are of harassment they had done to us using foul language and it also shows both sides of the conversation. In kemals logs he did not show him calling both jackie and I "bitch boi" even though he was asked not to and tried cover himself and only wanted to show bad on us.
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    http://prnt.sc/ei21op
     
  5. Kemal

    Kemal VIP Emerald

    The argument between you and me is a seperate incident which doesn't involve silverdill. I was responding to your shit talking. If you feel like I went too far make a seperate report against me and I'll post the full logs surrounding that incident.
     
  6. Lethalfrogger

    Lethalfrogger VIP Emerald

    let the staff decide.
     
  7. This was too far on my part and I'll gladly take a warning for it
     
  8. Walker

    Walker Hell yeah VIP

    Tagging @HelixSpiral as I am sure a mod hasn't seen this yet
     
  9. Kemal

    Kemal VIP Emerald

    Fine, I won't be able to respond to any questions that might be asked. so I'll just upload the rest of the logs from when you engaged with me.
     

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  10. neutral

    neutral Banned VIP

    I have seen this, but I'm at work for the next 3-4 hours so I haven't gone through all of the evidence.

    Tagging the rest of the team to see if someone else can address this at the moment. If not, I will once I'm home. @Skyrossm @AnarkisT @Zikeji @Robokiller87 @Azure @Frosty
     
  11. neutral

    neutral Banned VIP

    Hey all,

    There's a couple things that are brought up here that I'll address.

    First, I'll get the easy one out of the way.
    I agree that this was too far, and you will be issued an in-game warning for as this currently falls under harassment in the rules.. Thank you for the understanding.


    I do agree that this was also to far and Kemal will also receive an in-game warning for the same reasons stated above.

    Now. The home/pyramid destruction.

    Currently in the rules, the only thing you're protected against is a player using some type of game mechanism to damage or affect a claimed build. It is your responsibility to make sure that your buildings are protected by properly claiming them, and to make sure your claims are built in a way where you're protected from PvP. If you don't have enough claim blocks, some players have gone as far to building in obscure areas until they have enough game-time to accumulate a large amount of blocks for a larger build. What LethalFrogger, and JackieTheWolf did was within the current rule set. Even in the context of the chat, I don't see anything that could stretch this to be considered harassment from the two players.

    If you have anymore questions feel free to message me in game or here on the forums!
    -Helix
     
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