[Poll] Should Highwon sell points for IRL money?

Discussion in 'TTT Discussion' started by Xproplayer, Jan 13, 2019.

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Selling points for IRL money

  1. Yes this should be added

    19.4%
  2. No this should NOT be added

    80.6%
  1. Xproplayer

    Xproplayer VIP Silver

    Upsides: Hella funds to SGM for servers and other stuff

    Downsides: Kinda P2W



    edit: btw I don't care either way, I have literally all items purchased and still a couple hundred thousand points, I'm asking out of curiosity and in case highwon wants extra revenue but isn't advertising
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2019
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  2. Humancowcakes❄

    Humancowcakes❄ Bestest Member #FreeZo Moderator MVP

    He's already stated he won't do it /thread
     
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  3. The Law

    The Law You fought the law and the law won. VIP Silver Emerald

    But what's the point? Points get you nothing.
     
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  4. Sticky Bandit

    Sticky Bandit Never fall below your standard Legendary

    The PointShop contains upgrades to things like the InstaKnife. It'd be super pay to win if we added that!
     
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  5. Saturnity

    Saturnity SGMs Personal Planet VIP

    thats.. kinda the point.. so people can buy instaknife and other things in the shop.. Just don't stand 2 feet away from someone and you won't be knifed in the first place.
     
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  6. Pacifist

    Pacifist Are you okay? Lead Admin VIP Bronze

    While it would generate good revenue, it would remove a potential goal of achieving stuff. If you can buy points then there is no need to really earn them. Of course, people will still get points the normal way, but it would add a layer of grind that very few would find fun. I'm not outwardly against the idea. I've got all the things I want out of the pointshop, so I can't say that I'd ever need to buy points. I just think that this idea is rather shortsighted. Let me lay it out in a list format.

    Pros:
    -Hella money
    -Easier to buy stuff from pointshop

    Cons:
    -Points become less valuable
    -Earn points the legitimate way becomes more of a grind than it already is
    -Diminished satisfactions from pointshop purchases.
    -Overall devalue of points (if not implemented correctly)
    -Lottery becomes pretty much useless and abusable.

    If there were a way to lower the cons, i'd be down with the sickness.
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2019
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  7. Xproplayer

    Xproplayer VIP Silver

    addressing your cons:
    1 and 4 are the same, and who the fuck cares if points are devalued, its not like crescent where you're buying guns with them.
    2. no it doesnt??? im not saying make it so you can buy points and remove the 10 points per 2 mins or whatever... so no idea how you think itd be MORE of a grind. if anything it means people who buy points would flood the market and make giveaways and lottery wins more common, therefore making it so points are easier to get
    3. oh no muh satisfaction. maybe we should make it so you have to play 1000 hours before you can buy a traitor round so its REALLY satisfying
     
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  8. Agent Knockout

    Agent Knockout Glory to Poltava! Moderator VIP

    Now, under normal circumstances, this is so going to be denied by highwon...or a lead, because it's this much pay-to-play and pay-to-win, but here is a thing that could be a decent proposal, not hijack the thread, and weaken a bunch of cons. What if there was a weekly limit to the points you can buy?(don't expect me to start doing the numbers, I'm really bad at it)
     
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  9. Pacifist

    Pacifist Are you okay? Lead Admin VIP Bronze

    Alright betty you don't have to get so TESTY. 1 is more about the points themselves and 4 is about the pointshop itself. They are linked, and I should have been more specific. Why the fuck would I spend my time pointfarming if I could just buy points? Deatshstation heal is less valuable because some silly goose can just buy points and have it. I don't know if you possess the ability to read or not, but I did say if implemented incorrectly. This meaning if Highwon were to make it so you can get 100k with a little bit of coin. Obviously this wouldn't be a problem if you were capped at a certain amount or something. For number 3 I don't even know what to say. There is a certain satisfaction that comes from a payoff. This payoff is made even more worth it if you have to work for it. You can take pride in knowing you personally saved up all those points to buy death station heal. Maybe you dont feel that personally, after all, i'm pretty sure it is a meme at this point that you are pretty much a robot. As far as the charitable donation idea goes, I think it is pretty viable. You're right, there probably would be more donations and... lottery winnings? Oh hey! Look at that! Another con! I've edited my other post! :)

    At first I didn't care about this, and just wanted to raise some points of concern to help you better figure out how this could be implemented. However, If you are just going to mock me, fuck you.

    That being said, i'm pretty neutral haha :ROFLMAO:
     
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  10. ekksdee

    ekksdee wrath VIP Bronze

    What intrigues me the most is how no one mentioned that players are essentially already paying for points via ranks.
    Each rank that is purchasable introduces pointshop discounts for items and upgrades, so in theory, you're paying for the points that you won't have to pay when you decide to purchase stuff from the pointshop.
    For reference: Here is a user-made thread that shows the cost of items across the different purchasable ranks (Some of this information may be out of date if updates were rolled back, but you get the general gist of the idea)

    So Highwon is already selling people points? Well, not really, you still have to "earn" the points to buy items and upgrades in the first place, but the issue is that 95% of the points you earn is from being on the server and after a while that gets really stale. Even with the discounts, you need a lot of points to buy everything and most of the time people will just resort to AFKing for that. I guess the real problem here is that there should be more ways to "earn" points, because it's kinda boring atm, I don't think that purchasing points directly is a plausible solution to this either as that'd introduce more problems than what it would fix.
     
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  11. Rozboon

    Rozboon Forgive and Forget, or just forget. VIP

    Points should be a side thing, you play TTT to play TTT, not to earn points, it's just a side bonus to make some abilities different or better.
     
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  12. Sticky Bandit

    Sticky Bandit Never fall below your standard Legendary

    Serious Gacha when
     
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  13. Dargar

    Dargar VIP Bronze

    Fuck no. Enough said.
     
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