Denied Pan's Appeal

Discussion in 'TTT Ban Appeals' started by Pan, Jul 17, 2020.

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  1. Pan

    Pan Member

    Your In Game Nickname:
    Pan
    Your Steam ID:
    STEAM_0:0:33603229
    Which Server:
    Vanilla
    Why you should be unbanned:
    I was banned for having a "Pornographic spray", yet I was given at no point any indication of what was wrong with the spray; I had already DM'ed the current mod on duty (Frost) to have me know exactly what I should look for when posting a spray of my fursona, as I personally saw nothing intrinsically wrong with the one I was posting.

    To quote from the extended rules:

    1. Porn is any image/video depicting sexual activity, nudity, sex toys/objects, or sexual substances.
    2. Gore is any image/video that depicts Blood, cut body parts, people/creatures being injured, bodies/corpses, and similar things.
    3. Disturbing content is content that is graphic or unsettling, this includes content that sexualizes animals.
    4. Disclaimer: Up to the interpretation of the staff member issuing the ban.

    I'd like to additionally request that if this appeal is voided, that I at least get some more in-depth information on where this extremely subjective line is drawn; as far as my digging goes, this is the only thing I've gotten regarding reason (From Jabba's post on 4/20)

    The idea behind this is that these images promote bestiality/animal abuse.
    The spray I posted had a Kitsune's belly as its main point of focus, with its nine tails sprouting towards the back, for clarification. The picture was drawn by Nom-Symphony, who doesn't make NSFW drawings. I'd post their gallery but I'd probably get in more trouble. If asked for it I can provide.​
    Evidence of Innocence:

     
  2. RyanHymenman

    RyanHymenman Conscript the women and kids Administrator VIP Silver

    I have seen this. Please be patient.
     
  3. Frost

    Frost Frosted Pun King VIP

    I'm also gonna chime on this later as you were warned by me with your first spray, and also told no on the second.

    I'm gonna grab my screen caps and post them here, it'll ultimately be up to Ryan in the end.
     
  4. Frost

    Frost Frosted Pun King VIP

    So to begin, please don't lie. You were informed not to spray your spray but went with it anyway after being told not to use it. You PM'd me in game asking about the specific spray you were banned for was allowed and I told you know. We did not hold a discussion on what's allowed, you asked where in the Extended rules it's not allowed, and in the Lead Admin Update thread as well.


    Your first spray; contents were found disturbing by a few players, and I removed it and you asked who removed it, and I proceeded to inform you it was deemed disturbing.


    You inquired about this spray as shown in these screenshots:
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    I had also checked with two admins online about the spray, both said no, and were equally as disturbed.
    This photo hints at sexual activity, we all know what is going on. You can slightly see the tip of a phallic genital, which is not allowed.

    You have an extended history with these sprays, and you were told over, and over again not to spray them. This is your second ban for inappropriate sprays.

    The rest will be shown to Ryan as this was all just a precursor to your ban.

    "as I personally saw nothing intrinsically wrong with the one I was posting."

    Also doesn't excuse yourself to go ahead and spray this, you knew it was not allowed.
     
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  5. RyanHymenman

    RyanHymenman Conscript the women and kids Administrator VIP Silver

    Alright so like frost said, he warned you for this spray earlier today. When a mod tells you something isn't ok to spray, it is probably best not to spray it. I saw the spray on spray manager, and if you want me to provide the evidence for this, I'll happily PM it too you.

    We did confirm with 2 admins that this spray was indeed disturbing. You were warned by Frost not to spray it, but proceeded to do so anyway, then try to ask my opinion for it. I don't know if your intention was to "ask dad after mom said no" or if you were genuinely looking for a second opinion. Either way, you could have just pmed me the link instead of spraying it.

    Because of you JUST getting off of a separate disturbing content ban, I will be Denying this appeal and Not Voiding the ban.

    Appeal: Denied
    Thread: Locked

    As usual, if you have any questions or want to see the evidence I have. Feel free to PM me either here or on Discord.
    RyanHighman#4872
     
  6. RyanHymenman

    RyanHymenman Conscript the women and kids Administrator VIP Silver

    I suppose I should also throw this in. If you want a more definite answer to your sprays, you can PM Jabba like it says to do in the Lead Admin update thread, or PM any admin or mod, and we will do our best to answer you.

    You are just playing with fire when you borderline every spray to see how far you can push the boundaries. Anyway, that's my two cents about this. Hopefully this gives you the time to actually reflect and change the way you go about interacting with the community.
     
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