Modifying Mass RDM

Discussion in 'TTT Discussion' started by Pacifist, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. Fenrir Lokison

    Fenrir Lokison Banned VIP+

    +1
    But i personally think that there should be 2 types of rdm:
    1) The accidental rdm (always 1 slay)
    2) blatant rdm
     
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  2. dazza

    dazza Banned VIP Bronze

    accidental rdm is already a slay unless forgivesness is used which mods can also now use their own discretion for in certain conditions

    blatant rdm is handled differently too in cases where its used to harass somebody

    anyway I was always a fan of this idea but while we are on the topic of rdm punishment...

    what about 2nd offence? can that not be 2 slays regardless of the round? currently its 2 slays if its second offence in a separate round but why? why not just make it 2 slays even in same round?
     
  3. Elvis

    Elvis TheRockStars VIP Silver

    I agree with this. 1 slay per rdm is more than enough.
     
  4. Orion

    Orion He is Exalted Administrator VIP

    I don't think he meant that as 1 slay per RDM but rather if you get 2 invalid kills in the same round it would be 3 slays, one for the first offense and two more for the second offense. Would be interesting to see.
     
  5. Pacifist

    Pacifist Cynically Insane VIP Bronze

    These suggestions may be considered internally in the future. Try to focus on the main proposal please!
     
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  6. Birddog6

    Birddog6 VIP

    I dig it
     
  7. Hashira

    Hashira VIP

    +1
     
  8. Vent Xekart

    Vent Xekart VIP Bronze

  9. A good amount of the time, rdm + leave bans are completely intentional. Most commonly because one player kills another for a valid reason, the other player thinks its invalid, and then kills the first player out of spite and leaves the server. Other cases include chaotic server hoppers, sometimes players dont understand rdm or the rules and leave without knowing (even though the RDM manager has a notice), trolling by rdm, etc.

    One day from one of five servers for those who are evading punishments is a bit too lenient. One day bans really mean nothing to somebody who leaves the server. A 5 day ban allows to actually see the punishment that they had been administered.

    Though, I wouldn't mind if players were banned a few extra days on top of the normal 5 days for rdm and leave based on how many people they unjustly killed.
     
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  10. Robyn

    Robyn Floof Moderator VIP Silver

    Haha nice leak :)
     
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  11. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    RDM with no staff punishments should also be brought back. People who think they can get away with RDM because there are no mods should be punished harsher.
     
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  12. Cash

    Cash I staff the proper way Banned VIP

    Only way I can see this somewhat working, is if it's obvious intentional mass rdm.

    Otherwise people might get longer bans for a few accidental rdms
     
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  13. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    Most people who intentionally RDM without staff almost always say "no mods, no rules". They're pretty obvious about it and collecting evidence for it isn't hard either.
     
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  14. Pacifist

    Pacifist Cynically Insane VIP Bronze

    This thread is not for secondary suggestions, only the main one.
     
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  15. [MZK]Lightning

    [MZK]Lightning I've Been ... Thunderstruck!!! VIP Silver

    While I hesitate on redefining the offense of Mass RDM to be 4 RDMs instead of 3, I do insist that people who commit multiple Mass RDMs receive increasing punishments for their actions.

    +1
     
  16. Pokeben10

    Pokeben10 tell me pretty lies Moderator VIP Silver

    They do-

    Mass RDM 1st Offense, 5 days
    Mass RDM 2nd Offense, 2 weeks
    Mass RDM 3rd Offense 4 Weeks

    And so on... I would agree with you, though, that it should stay at 3 kills and not 4 for "Mass RDM."
     
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  17. [MZK]Lightning

    [MZK]Lightning I've Been ... Thunderstruck!!! VIP Silver

    By what I can see here, here, and here there is no information present regarding multiple Mass RDM offenses. This is why I worded my previous post so strongly.

    Could you possibly show me where you're getting that information from?
     
  18. Pokeben10

    Pokeben10 tell me pretty lies Moderator VIP Silver

    As seen here, Paci suggests changing Mass RDM punishment to what I said above. I think he meant just changing the main rules page to say that that's the punishment for Mass RDM because in my entire time as a mod that was the punishment for stacking Mass RDM offenses.
     
  19. iii

    iii eye-eye-eye or triple eye is fine VIP

    You mean you or other staff banned people for Mass RDM (2nd offense) and such when you were a mod?
    Because I'm pretty sure that's just not something that happened/happens at all...
     
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  20. Noccam :^)

    Noccam :^) Regular Member

    +1, I definitely think 3 rdms = ban is too little, spoken as someone who has a mass rdm ban for the same reason.