Is backseat moderating illegal?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Indy226, Jun 23, 2020.

  1. Indy226

    Indy226 Banned VIP Silver

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  2. Frost

    Frost Frosted Pun King VIP

    Generally frowned upon, can get to be very unnecessary. Especially if the mod is doing their job
     
  3. Emily❤

    Emily❤ The strongest light is the one within VIP Silver Emerald

    It's legit in the forum rules that backseating is not allowed :confused:
     
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  4. Wendy

    Wendy Chaotic VIP

    if it was, most of the regulars would be banned by now.

    But I really don't get how questioning someone's decision is considered as such. Doing so you're learning and making sure if the staff member didn't do a mistake. we are human and human errors exist not trying to ridicule anyone by asking?
    - (saying this cause recently cause someone wrote as such)

    also i think its illegal if it goes out of hand
     
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  5. Pacifist

    Pacifist Cynically Insane VIP Bronze

    If excessive, sure, but unless you got a mod app open...

    back seat like a motherfucker
     
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  6. Grumble

    Grumble VIP

    imagine reading the rules
     
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  7. Orion

    Orion He is Exalted Administrator VIP

    2020 and people are just hearing about backseat moderation being against the rules
     
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  8. Ted

    Ted The knight in white armor! Silver

    imagine the double work you have to do as a mod
    First you PM a player not to break the rules and then you also have to tell the backseaters you did your actual mod job.
     
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  9. Jabba the Slut

    Jabba the Slut That's Kinky! Lead Admin VIP Silver

    Nah fam, ignore the backseaters. If they get a response, they win.
     
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    Adminツ VIP

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  11. Noctorious

    Noctorious Your Best Nightmare VIP Emerald

    Don't ignore me senpai
     
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  12. Indy226

    Indy226 Banned VIP Silver

    I was told this but I've rarely seen it enforced
     
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  13. Orion

    Orion He is Exalted Administrator VIP

    Because it's not as common as the other offenses and even then, it's mostly something that is so meaningless (just like Bad's case) that it's not even worth it to do the warning. Just let it happen and be done with it, whatever. Tell them not to do it in the future and walk away, and if they do it again you warn since they now already know what they're doing. Plus, it's sometimes just such a thin line between giving advice and backseating that you can't really say anything.

    When staffing the servers, in 200+ days of staffing combined, I've only seen 2 cases of backseating worth warning while I was on as a case of actually trying to do my job.

    Being able to enforce backseat moderating doesn't mean it's worth anyone's time to enforce it.
     
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  14. -tyler

    -tyler My trial was filed as a crazy suicidal head case. VIP Bronze

    No it's probably not illegal. If it is it's probably just like a misdemeanor or something. I'd be really surprised if backseat moderating was a felony charge.
     
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  15. john redcorn

    john redcorn strangers like me VIP Emerald

    I really don't like this advice on how to handle it tbh

    if they are literally going "gag player, kick player, ban player for this", sure that's a demerit

    however most times those named "backseaters" are often the regulars asking pivotal questions of things the mod may of missed on a hectic server. i.e. "hey, why hasn't this dude been kicked/warned/crucified yet, he said the bad bag of sticks word in chat , have a picture if u missed it". Ignoring actual inquiries just because the player sounds like they could be backseating seems unfair
     
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  16. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    imo that's not backseating so long as the mod had ample time to warn/gag but didn't, he likely missed it, so it's more a reminder than backseating. obviously this is is a case-by-case thing.

    although maybe you should define what backseat moderating is, because in my experience there doesn't seem to be a clear definition.
     
  17. john redcorn

    john redcorn strangers like me VIP Emerald

    That's a good point, it's all up to interpretation, and without a definition there's 40 different interpretations of it on the staff team
     
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  18. Silent Rebel

    Silent Rebel Lead Shitposter VIP

    u will go to jail
     
  19. Adminツ

    Adminツ VIP

    ayyo wtf thread closed @staff wtf men thread closed //
     
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  20. Daddy Nexxus

    Daddy Nexxus Toxi-Fessional VIP

    I will make it legal.
     
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