For those who remain.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Rozboon, Nov 22, 2018.

  1. Rozboon

    Rozboon Forgive and Forget, or just forget. VIP

    What is everyone's opinion on this?
    Keep the servers but with less content due to crashes and a rollback to fix them?
    Keep servers now with no future content updates and with crashes?
    Keep going with the shutdown?

    On top of that, what is your opinion on this place? Why are you here? and why do you buy ranks?
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  2. Sly

    Sly Onward and Upward to Greater Glory VIP Silver

    I buy ranks because I want ammo in my weapons and access to player models. I also support Highwons decision the shutdown the Servers. It’s better then seeing us slowly die which we were doing before the shutdown was announced.
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  3. Ashes Relandi

    Ashes Relandi ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Ashes to Ashes Moderator Elite

    I'd like to see these servers last as long as they can.

    Even with a bit less content, it's a fun place for regulars to at least chill.
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  4. only time I agree with you ;)
  5. keep and rollback to (hopefully) fix crashes, then go from there
  6. A Salt Ed

    A Salt Ed VIP

    just a little input, trying to revive a dying community is almost never good.

    I've seen it happen with my first community, once the original owner left, the two co-owners tried to run everything..two combatting ideas etc and it came to a crash. One of them reopened the community a few months later just for it to be a breeding ground of trolls and toxicity.
    Same with the third community I joined, watching the second one slowly die while the owner just bans anyone who disagrees with him and says the community is on it's downfall.
    Same with other DarkRP servers I've seen around, it's just never good.

    Everything good always comes to an end, that's the way of life. Trying to keep it alive, is never better for anyone, this is also a prime opportunity for other small communities to flourish and create better memories.

    In the end you have to let go.

    Those who disagree have problems letting go- from my own experience, and it doesn't necessarily have to be with communities, if you have to let go, don't hold on. It only hurts and makes everything worse.
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  7. MemeDaddy

    MemeDaddy VIP

    I mean maybe it woulda worked out if there wasn’t another server opening up that’s going to suck away tons of SGM members because now they can go play with their perma banned friends.

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  8. Dani

    Dani Impersonating Staff VIP

    I mean, the guy simply doesn't wanna run the server or go through the whole process of transferring rights or whatever, so the real answer is just to let the shutdown happen. However, if the crashes and the lack of content updates were the actual reasons for the shutdown, and not the fact that he's had enough, then I'd like it if they tried a rollback.

    1. The culture on the forums is a bit too American for my tastes. The priorities on what is offensive is really off in my eyes, like nudity or the fact that you can't say certain words in ANY context. However,
    2. I mostly like how precise the formulation of the rule is and how staff is organized. The fact that the moderators and admins are trying to be professional is a good thing, even if it makes them seem artificial. Also, I like that the items aren't too gimmicky and that it's pretty much just TTT with some added T weapons. No weird crafting/lootcrate shit with a million different weapons. It would take away from the base game, which is what I'm here for.
    3. I would never buy a rank for any server ever. However, what I do like about the rank that I got gifted is the fact that I can use loadouts and buy frag grenades for a cheaper price. I love the fact that you can gift people ranks. It really makes a difference because there are some people like me who won't ever buy ranks on servers like these. Others love gifting people thinks. Win-win! I certainly do not use any of the fancy skins that are some of the donator perks. I usually just run around as the default model and couldn't care less about the fact that a weapon that was named after some staff member that I'm never gonna use got added.

    Yyyeeeeah, I'm definitely gonna try it out, but I got a bad feeling about it. Not the "banned friends" thing, but probably the fact that the server is basically built on a foundation of drama.
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  9. neutral

    neutral Banned VIP

    It’d be neat to go back to before Christmas it isn’t too much work and keeps the place around. I’m curious, the crashes didn’t start happening around Christmas— it was about a months or two after. What updates were added post-Christmas that better correlates to this?

    Also, has Facepunch revolved the round clean up issue on Linux based servers? I know you mentioned that this doesn’t happen in other Gmod communties- but that is because SGM is hosted on Linux based servers, while others are on Windows machines, is this not true?

    Also- have the changes that have been implemented on EU that has ultimately been more stable been implemented to the other servers as well?
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  10. Lordyhgm

    Lordyhgm Nathan776 needs to get a custom title. Administrator VIP

    I don't play here cause of frequent updates or weapons etc, cause I could do that anywhere else lol.
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  11. Vector

    Vector VIP Silver

    I love sgm but its like a pet it cant last forever unless ur a mad scientist like @helixspiral
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  12. Vector

    Vector VIP Silver

    Dammit helix it means you can make a conoction to make it survive forever.
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  13. Highwon

    Highwon Owner VIP Silver

    What changes are you talking about? From what I recall, Opal said EU was more stable because it had a lower player count than the US servers. I mean I can't really implement a change like that without reducing the max player count of the server. And unless Opal made changes without telling me about it (which he could since he had root access) the EU servers are identical to the US servers.
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  14. Renko

    Renko VIP Iron

    what is your opinion on this place?
    I can' tell that because I only want to play TTT.

    Why are you here? and
    Because I want to play TTT with most highest player count in server browser.

    why do you buy ranks?
    I bought supporter because it fits the purpose of supporting the server and yellow is a good color too.
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  15. neutral

    neutral Banned VIP

    I don't know the exact details or what exactly was changed- but I was under the impression there were some, I'm not the right person to ask tbh.

    I don't think the population was really lower for the time I was tracking it when we made some changes to the staffing structure. It was just busier at different times. The servers were pretty usually pretty full in early PST morning, and the crashes that we could observe were a lot lower than the US servers when Opal was making some changes to try to mitigate them.
  16. iii

    iii eye-eye-eye or triple eye is fine VIP

    EU 1 also has the "join our discord" message repeating, which the other servers don't, so at least something about it is different. (not that that means anything else is different)

    About the thread itself... I don't know, sorry.
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  17. While it would be comforting to see this place stay around, as others have stated, it wouldn't be to much of a purposeful end, except for a "hangout for regulars", for whatever that's worth, and that group is sure to only shrink, not grow.

    My gut feeling is that, even if certain updates were "rolled back", this place isn't going to take off again, as sad as I am to say that. There is only so far down any road you can go before you can't turn around, only so many commitments you can make before you can't renege them. Depending on how you view this place, you could use the words "mistakes" and "bridges burned", but that's besides the point, which is that we seem to be past the point of no return. This isn't to say that a miracle couldn't get this place high again, but one of those doesn't seem to be forthcoming, and I doubt many would disagree.

    Like @Frost Hielo said, let it go. We had a great run; to resuscitate the dead would only distract from the glory of the good times that were had. Let's just close the book and put it on the shelf reserved for the best reads, one you pass by each day and remember fondly and think of often.

    As to my opinion of this place, I have poured out all the words I need to in my post in the shutdown thread.
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  18. Goose

    Goose Duck, Duck, Goose Motherfucker VIP

    If you roll back the servers can you also roll back Opal's terrible rewriting of the extended rules? Seriously there were some things that needed fixed, but the way it is written now is terrible. Honestly I actually can't think of a single change Opal made that actually significantly contributed to enhancing the gameplay of the server and wouldn't miss any of it, with the notable of exception of the sl8 nerf and some of the new fun rounds + maps. tl;dr I, and I assume most other long time players, wouldn't mind the server being completely reverted to how it was in 2016.
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  19. Voca

    Voca o.o Moderator VIP

    Personally, I play here for the community and some of its regulars, having a good time with them etc. the crashes or addons doesnt change how I feel about the server, if a server crashes, sure lets just continue playing on another of the servers we have o.o

    No matter what decision is taken I already decided, I stay here until the server is completely gone.
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