Fix Taser Rule

Discussion in 'Rules and Protocol' started by Cash, Aug 17, 2019.


Make it self-defense the first few seconds after getting up?

  1. yes

    17 vote(s)
  2. no

    9 vote(s)
  3. only if det doesn't offer healing

    5 vote(s)
  1. From my point of view, the main reason you're supposed to kill someone in this gamemode is to get rid of the traitors. Why would an innocent have any reason to kill a detective? Unless if the detective is metagaming and doing whatever they want, they're only there to help out the innocent. Besides, once you're finally able to shoot after getting tased, it is most likely that the event has already calmed down, whether or not you were killed whilst being tased.

    Like, if a detective has been targeting a single person or killing for no other reason, then yeah it's fine to eliminate the threat. If you were being tased for a traitorous act or suspicion, shooting the detective in self-defense isn't going to help your case, no matter your role.

    Besides, it's not like reports aren't a thing.
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  2. Ted

    Ted The knight in white armor! Silver

    It is not the gamemode itself that makes it a gay rule.

    It is the D damaging you for no reason and there is no self defense for him actualy killing you. Even a guy who is tested and proven by killing 3 t's can be murdered by the D using the tazer and the only thing you can do is take the damage, otherwise you will be slain which is toxic by the staff handling this rule because it it obvious self defense and by the D who is tazing you.
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  3. Pokeben10

    Pokeben10 tell me pretty lies Moderator VIP Silver

    Just wanted to make it clear that the rule, as it stands currently, states that killing or causing death in ragdoll mode or after ragdoll with the taser is RDM.
  4. Ted

    Ted The knight in white armor! Silver

    Yes, but it is odd that if i crowbar you as D you can kill me, but when i tase you you have to take it all as a man and if you shoot back YOU will be slain as well. Which is bullshit
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  5. BorkWoof

    BorkWoof VIP

    imo if this rule is going to stay, then you shouldn't be able to kill a detective for crowbarring you once

    same logic, "they're only putting you in temporary danger"

    also mfw a lead didnt even know that taser did damage
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  6. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    If a Detective tases you for no reason, it's automatically RDM, and they'll be punished, but it's not self-defense.

    Just like how if a Detective shoots you once and moves on, you can't hunt down the detective and kill them, because it's not self-defense.

    Either way, the Detective will serve a slay if he did RDM, and you only lost 10 HP, boo-hoo. :(
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  7. BorkWoof

    BorkWoof VIP

    its not about being petty, its about being consistent with the ruling
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  8. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    I don't see anything inconsistent about it. You aren't fighting for your life after getting up from being tased, which is what must be happening if you want to argue self-defense.
    If the Detective wanted you dead, he would have trashed you while you were having a seizure on the floor.

    How can you expect consistent ruling in regards to a relatively new weapon/play-style?
  9. BorkWoof

    BorkWoof VIP

    if someone damages you, you can kill them

    if a detective prop damages you for one damage, you can kill them
    if a detective shoots you in the arm with a HUGE once, you can kill them
    if a detective crowbars you once, you can kill them
    if a detective tases you and does ten damage, you can't kill them

    its not consistent and all it does is make rules more confusing for returning and new players
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  10. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    1. you cant
    2. you cant
    3. you cant
    4. you cant

    seems pretty consistent to me.

    You can only kill a Detective actively trying to kill you. One shot from a HUGE or crowbar is obviously not actively trying to kill you. Definitely not prop damage.
    If the Detective hit you once, it might be RDM, but it's not grounds for self-defense.

    Also, if you haven't noticed, a lot of rules are inconsistent. That's just what happens when you have a lot of moving parts in a game like TTT.
  11. BorkWoof

    BorkWoof VIP

    bruh i had multiple staff members sodomize me because i did as little as 3 damage before as a detective
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  12. Pokeben10

    Pokeben10 tell me pretty lies Moderator VIP Silver

    What's inconsistent about it is the fact that a detective can be killed for causing damage in literally any other way. Why should the taser be an exception? I'd also like to point out that you cannot be shot while in ragdoll mode (tased).

    We had the taser on the servers quite some time ago, so this definitely isn't anything new.
  13. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald


    yall need to seriously re-read the rules because it's getting everyone confused as fuck.

    you can only kill detectives in self-defense. meaning they must clearly be trying to kill you. what is hard to understand?

    if you rdm as detective but aren't actively trying to kill the player, both of you dumbfucks should have been slain.
  14. Pokeben10

    Pokeben10 tell me pretty lies Moderator VIP Silver

    Nowhere in the rules is "self-defense" defined. You're just making up your own definition of it. If someone damages you, that is grounds to kill them.
  15. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    Self-defense has been around since before you created an account on the forums and likely before you even started playing on the servers.

    No idea why it isn't defined in the new rules/extended rules
  16. Pokeben10

    Pokeben10 tell me pretty lies Moderator VIP Silver

    Maybe you should go read the rules before you call others out for not knowing them
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  17. Ted

    Ted The knight in white armor! Silver

    I find it funny how we are talking about a rule and we put in self defense and say 1 shot is not a reason to kill the D where i see a lot of regulars do 180 headshots when they get hit once. So imo 1 hit can be acted on with self defense if you strike back at the moment itself.

    But it is all per scene different. This is why it is better to protect the players with a small window and fair mod judgement. Instead of saying nah we just won't let you. Because what other reason exept that you were caught as T or kos'ed does a D have to taze a player?

    Even though there are a few second where he "can" kill you like a ragdoll, this still does not prove he knows how to kill you in ragdol.
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  18. Now you just somebody that I used to know VIP Silver

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