Don't allow deaths to manually switch to spectator

Discussion in 'Rules and Protocol' started by Tinbuster00, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. Tinbuster00

    Tinbuster00 See you on the forums! VIP Silver Emerald

    I've never seen it used because the death is actually going afk. They just use it to switch to spectator and quickly switch back to avoid being death.

    Not letting deaths manually switch to spectator would probably stop most of the people who avoid death on the server. Obviously there are other ways to avoid it like leaving and rejoining. Most people switch to spectate and back as that allows you to immediately spawn back next round instead of having to wait.

    Last edited: Aug 22, 2015
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  2. Noctorious

    Noctorious Your Best Nightmare VIP Emerald

    Wtf? But being death is the only fun part of deathrun!
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  3. Average Guy

    Average Guy Averageness is subjective. VIP

    I rather have a death do this than delay the round because they do not want to be death.
  4. ZeRo

    ZeRo :sneaky: Banned VIP Silver

    If players are caught doing this, they will be punished appropriately depending on how many times it happens. I would like to have deaths not have the privilege to go to spectator if it becomes a common thing.
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  5. zomborg

    zomborg "She's like a little Satan." - CDriscoll 2015 VIP

    I feel if this is going to be a thing, there should be an option to not be a death- like not being a detective. Some people genuinely just don't want to be a death and that should be 100% okay.
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  6. Tinbuster00

    Tinbuster00 See you on the forums! VIP Silver Emerald

    It would be nice for that to be an option. At the moment the switch to spectator option for deaths is only being used to avoid being death.
  7. tz-

    tz- feelin it VIP Emerald

    Why are there 3 disagrees on this thread? Hell, 2 of the disagrees don't even play deathrun, and one of you only has like 5 hours on it. Are you guys dumb or something?

    This is the only way for a death to avoid being death (besides actually being AFK), AKA breaking the rule that specifically says "Do not dodge your role (leave/AFK when Death)"

    If we get rid of the option to forcibly put yourself as spectator and then back, it gets rid of whole rounds being skipped in a matter of seconds. And, if the death is actually AFK, then the staff member on at the time lol can just force spectate them, or they'll be moved to spectator.
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  8. zomborg

    zomborg "She's like a little Satan." - CDriscoll 2015 VIP

    If you put in an option to not be death at all, it takes away the opportunity to be death if you don't want to be. I personally don't enjoy being death, I like being a runner because I find it more fun. I participate as a death, but that's because I have to. It's ALSO against the rules to "free run", which is what would happen if that person that didn't want to be a death.

    Having the option to "opt out" is the best solution vs trying to force people into doing something they don't want to.

    Regardless of how many hours I have on DR, I still enjoy playing and can have input. You don't have to no-life DR to be able to form an opinion about it. Instead of trying to insult people, you should be trying to come to a useful solution like the rest of us.
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  9. tz-

    tz- feelin it VIP Emerald

    Say there are 10 people on the server, 8 of the players opt out of being death, thus leading to only 2 people being death, sooner or later those 2 people are going to get tired of being death and either also opt out or leave the server completely. If the whole server opts out, what're gonna do, obviously someone has to be death.

    I hate being death too, no matter what you're going have to do something you don't want to, and no matter what there are going to be players that break rules and give free runs.

    "best solution" lol

    OP came up with a solution, I agree with the solution. You say you have a better one, I say you don't. I never insulted anyone, I asked a question. If you can't take someone being rude then I don't know what to tell you. Having the option to just get out of being death is basically having the option to death avoid.

    Don't wanna be death? Press F1, hit spectator twice, done, someone else has to deal with it.
    Don't wanna be death? Press F1, opt out of being death, done, someone else has to deal with it. But hey, at least this person enjoys being death 4 rounds in a row since no one else wants to, right?
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  10. zomborg

    zomborg "She's like a little Satan." - CDriscoll 2015 VIP

    There's a difference between stating why you feel a certain way and rating things dumb because you disagree. Notice how there's not a single dumb on OP but you feel the need to rate things dumb and not explain why? Finally after calling you out on it, you explain, which is great. However the way you go about it is shitty.


    isn't the way to go about it and is soiling the exact reason why we have a forum in the first place. The rest of us have been constructive.
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  11. tz-

    tz- feelin it VIP Emerald

    I rated it dumb because I find your solution dumb, not because I disagree with it.

    I don't say why I do things because then shit like this happens (flame war), and I'm not going to explain why something happened unless asked, which you did so I responded.

    Try to fully comprehend something before you spout nonsense.
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  12. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    Instead of insulting each other or arguing on this post, insulting each other's ideas, let's use it to simply submit ideas to rectify and issue.
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  13. Arcanius

    Arcanius Oh, you like it there VIP

    Only good reason for a death to kill himself is to not delay the round on the 1st round where lots have not loaded in. Otherwise if you're death, just play the role, don't hand off your role just because you have the power to do so.
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  14. Average Guy

    Average Guy Averageness is subjective. VIP

    Just an Idea here: Give an incentive to become death. Points per kill, points for winning, something along those lines that actually gives the people that hate being death to be death.
  15. Carned

    Carned ✘o ✘o VIP Silver Emerald

    You're welcome.
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  16. Smash

    Smash Baka VIP Silver

    Honestly, even with an incentive I don't think people would stay death. So far while playing without staff the past two days I've seen over 10 people dodge death, it's annoying honestly. Having someone skip an entire round of a map possibly multiple times a map just because they don't want to play shouldn't be an option.
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  17. I would rather the same 2-3 people play death (with everyone else opted out) than have the same people skipping death over and over. I suck at being death but I try my best so everyone else has a challenge.
  18. Kawaii

    Kawaii Paper Towns

    Besides not having a good grasp on the SDR rules, i also have very little play time, so if i do make any mistakes(or misconceptions) have mercy.

    Also, why would people not want to become death is beyond me(its like being the Traitor no?)

    From what I've read
    If we allow people to opt out of being Deaths, wouldn't it contradict this rule?
    Also i personally agree with TeeZy about the whole 8people opting out of death etc. (however i feel this would be a one off scenario)

    However, to every argument there's always 2 sides.

    What puddles said
    Is true as well. The main point of SDR is to allow people from anywhere, come together and have fun. If a player that doesnt want to be death, and gets death. Then the chances of them delaying the whole round(making everyone unhappy) would significantly increase. Not only that, it would defeat the purpose of even having this SDR server, to have fun.

    It really depends on how people view this issue.

  19. sNAppy-TurTle

    sNAppy-TurTle VIP Silver

    Well, I believe that a dodge death option should only be in the point shop for sale, as well as an option to buy death round,. Additionally I think there should be more deaths at a lower player count, so that death can be a team more rather then a single loner. This would be more fun I believe.
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  20. This might have been said already, but there is an addon that adds rounds of being a death, if they try to avoid, (leaving). It would say something like this upon the leaving and arrival of the player: Senpai Nick has tried to abandon his Death Duties. He will have one round of Death added to him. Or something to that affect :p