but I realised it's easier if I condense it into a few short points. A lot of the weapons feel left behind and their implementation is lacking. This is especially true for: AUG Kriss Vector Famas HK G3A3 FG 42 SR-3m Vikhr TAR-21 MP5 Navy Tommy Gun Barrett M82 M24 Mossberg 590 Sig Sauer P229r HK45C P228 FN FAL Tec-9 I think we really need to focus on these above weapons when we're addressing balances because for what they were designed for, they do very little damage/are inaccurate/are a waste of ammo. I want players who to fight long-ranged using a sniper other than the AWP or Rifle. I want players who want medium ranged combat to not have to pick out of 6 weapons. I want players who want to spray a room full of players then quickly escape to not have to just use an AK or shotgun. I want the pistols to not be either Deagle, Glock or Pistol. Let's discuss this.
I mostly agree with this however from my experience the FN P90 and the Mossberg 590 are effective weapons imo The FN P90 has low recoil so its easy to get multiple headshots , and the Mossberg can be a one shot if you aim well
I don't see a balanced update for these guns appearing anytime soon, however I agree. With the exception of the P90. That gun has its niche as an SMG that is accurate at range, little spread, and 50 rounds. You aim at the head with p90 and you hold down the trigger until the problem goes away.
On second thought, you and @Spreadsheet make a valid point. I'll edit it out. For the Mossberg I do find it is quite a slow weapon, that's my only hangup of it. It should have a smaller range but do quite high damage.
bro wtf r u on with this list vector is a lowtier god, that thing can shred and is the better version of mac10 but sure buff it idc it is kinda bad famas? really? fg vikhr and tar? really?? have u even tried to use these guns and are you competent enough to actually aim with them bc jesus christ, like the fg got a nerfed clip size bc of how good it is actually dont answer that i know youre bad bc you really put tommy gun, barrett, m24 and the p90 on this list like... what? lmao tommy gun and p90 are easily top tier weapons and the barrett/m24 are snipers that arent exact copy-pastes of each other like cmon bruh ps i took out the guns that actually needed to be buffed from the quote
dude oh my god bro are you serious bro what is this list bro I took out like 4 guns bro you're bad at this game bro why don't you ask me what my concerns are with these weapons?
If I'm going to be real with you. All these weapons, aren't bad. I've used all of them and enjoy them. I'd say the worst one there is the aug simply because its bullets go everywhere, even with the scope. We can all agree that these weapons aren't as good compared to the higher tier weapons, but I wouldn't say that they aren't useable.
oh no they're definitely viable but compared to why pick a kriss vector when you can pick a honey badger? why pick the SR-3M when you can pick a HK416? the pistols I listed are pretty average, but the HK45C and Sig Sauer really suck
So more of like a gun balance in a game sense? Like the aug being good mid range with the scope and its less accurate without scoping? That's something that I would really want, but that would never happen on these servers. Unless Highwon has a change of mind.
No to all of these M24/Barrett are typically better than the default rifle (yes they are more obvious sound wise, but they shoot in a straight line whereas the rifle has a cone - making you miss headshots that shouldn't have missed) Tommy gun - Pretty much a huge with higher dmg and better accuracy, can easily be used to mow down a crowd Mossberg - Alternate shotgun, not much to say
I've read your replies so I'll go back and test these guns further and address what you've said. Thank you guys.
I've been using the famas a lot recently just to branch out and honestly it isn't a bad gun, it does it jobs decently well the problem is the fact that it just isn't as good as the strong guns like the AK or HK, same with the tar-21, fn fal, and kriss vector, they aren't bad guns they just so not hold up when comparing it to all the powerful guns, what would make the gameplay more fun imo is if more weapons were like these, they are good guns they just aren't 2 shot headshot with a full auto gun level and gunfights could be a lot better if they didnt last 1/15 of a clip
yeah i took out the 4 guns in your list that i think should actually get buffed along side the vector all of the other guns are perfectly fine, its not their fault guns like the ak sl8 and colt exist, but for some reason u r dumb/bad and therefore think that these are automatically trash and underpowered
aug bad kriss vector maybe like a little bit more damage famas has ak recoil but okish damage so idk g3 is like a vanilla m16 but actually good fg is shit vikhr good maybe a litt`le inaccurate tar-21 pretty fun to use mp5 shit i used tommy gun like twice so idk barrett is good for bodyshots ive never used m24 since the scope glitch that happened when it came out but i think its just a barrett mossberg turns me on sauer/hk45 are good for picking off low targets p228 shit i gave up on the fal after i shot a dude like 10 times and then looked away only to realize i didnt actually kill him tec-9 bad
do you have anything constructive to add to this thread? look at everyone's responses and then look at yours, you are embarrassing to deal with. everyone else managed to contribute to this discussion without directly name calling and being a rude piece of shit, so please feel free to remain silent eternally because I will be answering everyone around this thread but yourself going forwards. fuck off twice.
you havent given any reason for your shitty ass list either, all you did was list a bunch of guns you think are bad bc youre bad at this game and so far a lot of what people are saying is just same vague shit of "hey (insert gun here) is actually pretty good it can/has (add decent stat here)" and then you say "ok i will reconsider" like a mindless idiot who doesnt actually have any actually of their own beliefs for the bullshit they say the guns from your list that should actually be buffed are the AUG, Vector, MP5 and Tec9
