Revert the staff groups changelogs

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Iuna, Aug 16, 2019.

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Which system is best?

  1. New super simplified system (new system)

    10 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. More detailed system with less room for changelog entries (old system)

    11 vote(s)
    36.7%
  3. Law's staff groups (historical landmark)

    9 vote(s)
    30.0%
  1. Iuna

    Iuna Goodnight moon VIP

    The new ones are gross and more confusing. There wasn't really a reason to change it in the first place.

    • BBcode isn't that difficult, and the admins should know how it works anyway. It's really just a matter of copy-pasting and checking your work before you hit save.
    • The character limit is high enough that by the time you have to remove stuff from the changelogs, it's usually outdated by months.
    • There isn't much benefit to having changelogs go further back, and if you really care about it then just keep a permanent log as a thread in admin discussion.
    • It wasn't broken before.
     
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  2. Cash

    Cash I staff the proper way Banned VIP

    -1

    don't see how new ones are more confusing, they're more simplified
     
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  3. Iuna

    Iuna Goodnight moon VIP

    harder read because they're more compressed and there are fewer words

    It's only better for the people editing it, which was never really an issue with the thread, just that the people editing it didn't pay enough attention when they did it.
     
  4. Kythol

    Kythol ok Moderator VIP

    honestly, just because it's new doesn't mean it's bad

    give it some time and then form an opinion on it
     
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  5. Iuna

    Iuna Goodnight moon VIP

    I don't think it's bad because it's new.
    These are the reasons I think it's bad:
    You can't say that it's easier to read, it has a legend. That automatically means that you have to look in two different places to understand it.
     
  6. Nathan776

    Nathan776 Administrator Administrator VIP Silver

    Simplified ≠ less words. I don't think this matters all too much overall but I definitely preferred the older change log. I actually have to put my glasses on to try and read this version as its so compressed with so many colors. Please at minimum space it out a bit.
     
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  7. Cash

    Cash I staff the proper way Banned VIP

    A legend is a legend, if you know what each colour is then you don't need to open it
     
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  8. Timo654

    Timo654 EU BEST VIP Silver

    "It wasn't broken before."

    well y'know, most admins weren't capable of adding stuff to the changelog without breaking it all, lol.

    but yeah, I don't like the redesign a lot either.

    just learn to edit staff groups instead of coming up with some weird new formatting
    /shrug
     
  9. Temar

    Temar Administrator VIP

    The change log wasn't really much of an issue. Editing the staff list it self is what often got broken so that changed fixed nothing
     
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  10. Lordyhgm

    Lordyhgm Spiteful smells Lead Admin VIP

    I think one reason for the change was cause the other day nothing was working, BBcode or rich editor, and I then spent half hours removing around 250 redundant commands. The new one's less pretty but simpler, but as someone with some visual stress and dyslexia, larger or nicer font and some greater line spacing is gonna be in need.

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  11. Temar

    Temar Administrator VIP

    Rdundant tags isn't going to change. For change logs
    Change logs is a scrolling list. Add top. Remove bottom
    Mistakes get erased along with text at bottom
    And making is smaller and harder to read but still involves plenty of color etc (bbcode) isn't going to prevent issues

    Also simple things like new lines are very little in terms of char limit
     
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  12. dazza

    dazza Banned VIP Bronze

    start by taking everything out of quotes

    but I think the best idea is to have highwon (or a lead since they can edit nodes) make a new page which is solely dedicated to staff teams and its changelog, would make editing easier , would look a lot nicer than a stupid forum thread and would allow for easier handling and the use of better tools
     
  13. Paradox

    Paradox The One Eyed Ghoul Banned Elite

    I wish it could be auto done when someones added to tmod it fetched their name and their admins and adds it to said staff groups if that even is possible
     
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  14. Temar

    Temar Administrator VIP

    Although all ranks are set on forum etc they arnt assigned to admin or lead so at present an automated script wouldn't have enough info
     
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  15. Elvis

    Elvis TheRockStars VIP Silver

    -1

    Youre right, its not that hard. However, it was a clusterfuck of a fuck cluster trying to even read the bbcode. This makes it easier for admins and takes away the chance of something breaking.

    I dont know how its hard to read for yall because I can read it perfectly fine.
     
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  16. john redcorn

    john redcorn strangers like me VIP Emerald

    The major problem was the font codes, could of stripped those and made everything easier
     
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  17. Pacifist

    Pacifist Cynically Insane VIP Bronze

    I am upset with the reception of the post I made, considering I spent a very long time creating it. It was designed to be all of the following things:
    -Easier to edit
    -Quicker to read
    -Contain more information
    -Fix all BBCode errors

    But, alas, here we are. I'll spend more of my time fixing this if it makes you happy, though I'm sure i'll still get a shit ton of dumb ratings. Consider it done.
     
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  18. Timo654

    Timo654 EU BEST VIP Silver

    could you add 2019 to the changelog? instead of just the day and month
     
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  19. Pacifist

    Pacifist Cynically Insane VIP Bronze

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  20. Timo654

    Timo654 EU BEST VIP Silver

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