Sticky Staff Meeting Topic Suggestions

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Jabba the Slut, Dec 3, 2020.

  1. Cash

    Cash I staff the proper way Banned VIP

    I meant in general, not just training (since if you're noticing it when not needing to be trained, it's there without you on too)
     
  2. MEHEEZY

    MEHEEZY Supporter

    Reducing/removing Multiple offences rules.
    Rdm + leave x3
    Ghosting x3
    etc. etc
    I think it's terrible because rdm + leave can be accidental and I believe 5days for one rdm is a bit excessive but more than four weeks? If it's a regular player, why ban them for soo long? Makes no sense to me, should massively reduce it or keep it as a 5day ban for the regular players instead of 8w or whatever because that's just pushing most of the SGM population away. Secondly, remove the slur rules, people say more slurs now in-game than before because of the slur rule.
    Thirdly, can staff stop fucking forcing a repop to east from vanilla or vice versa, it's annoying. We on a server, stop trying to get everyone to !hop with you
     
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  3. Yellow

    Yellow VIP

    Remove the RDM&leave rule why does it matter if I serve out my 2 slays today or in 2 days makes 0 difference
     
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  4. tz-

    tz- feelin it VIP Emerald

    fr yall gotta look at my admin stats to see how many bans i got, you can see i got like 3k hours on these dumbass servers ill be back, i got stockholm syndrome mfer trust me
     
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  5. Rico

    Rico The Coolest Person! VIP Bronze

    Making frags do impact damage, at least for frag storm.
     
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  6. PwnageKO

    PwnageKO "I'll be seeing you on the forums." VIP

    Taking some of the stuff from @MEHEEZY and @Yellow 's suggestions. I have always not really liked the idea of banning players for increasing lengths for something like RDM & Leave. Especially regular players who actively play on the servers. Increasing ban lengths makes sense to me for stuff like Mass RDM and the other various reasons, but something like RDM & Leave really feels like it should only be a bannable offense when it's clearly someone came to the server to just rdm and immediately leave with no plans of ever coming back.

    I honestly think that playtime should be taken into account when it comes to RDM&Leave. If a player meets a certain playtime threshold, they should be allowed to come back and serve their slays at another date. Maybe even add an extra slay punishment for leaving. But to me, to ban a player who regularly takes part in the community and plays on the servers for something like 4 weeks because they didn't stay for 1 round slay just seems too harsh of a punishment. I get the argument goes "you should have learned from your previous bans and/or after all your playtime, you should know the server's rules by now" and I get this line of reasoning, but in the end, if a player is very likely going to return to serve their slays and they are an active player in the community, does punishing them do more harm than good?

    I think a playtime threshold of maybe 100+ hours could honestly work. Any players lower than that who RDM & Leave should get a ban because they are likely just hopping on the server to rdm only. If a player meets that threshold, just increase their number of slays and they will very likely come back to serve their punishment.

    Edit: After talking with Dazza and Titan. I may be less for this type of solution.
     
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  7. Pierogi

    Pierogi Special Properations Administrator VIP

    I think a good solution to the RDM and leave question could be to make the SoL based on playtime on the server, not time since the ban was issued. That way, the only people who get to RDM and leave 4th+ are the ones who are getting several RDM and leave bans in a short amount of time played on our server.
     
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  8. RyanHymenman

    RyanHymenman Conscript the women and kids Administrator VIP Silver

    Remember this isn’t a place to debate rules. If you wanna make a suggestion thread, go ahead. This is stuff you want us to bring up and debate within the staff team, which we will. I have some Ideas to maybe make a middle ground on the RDM and leave topic. If you disagree or agree with an idea here, the best thing you can do is rate the OP of that idea. That gives us an idea of how the general community views it.
     
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  9. MONKMAN

    MONKMAN almond milk enthusiast Supporter

    There's already a slight controversy about staff discretion and interpreting the rules (which is an unavoidable consequence of any legal system -- we have judges for a reason). It's a big quandary for staff to have to psychoanalyze player's activities and determine if infractions were committed with any malicious intent. Once again, different staff will naturally have different inclinations towards what is considered an intent to RDM. Even then, it's impossible to implement a protocol that can determine intent if a player is silent (like many are, especially new players that this suggestion is designed to help attract). I definitely understand the argument of having a friendlier punishment system for newer players, but I think that it might just agitate those that are becoming increasingly concerned about staff discretion.
     
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  10. j3kawesome

    j3kawesome "mestimate" - Indy226 Administrator VIP Silver

    Just another reminder that this is not a place to debate suggestions, as Ryan said if you want to have a place where you can debate a suggestion then make a suggestion
     
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  11. Indy226

    Indy226 Banned VIP Silver

    for seriousness, staff should enforce rules not so strictly.
     
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  12. RyanHymenman

    RyanHymenman Conscript the women and kids Administrator VIP Silver

    examples? Saying this across the board wont help. Imo there are many staff members who enforce the rules perfectly. What are some examples of things that have happened where staff have been overly strict? You can DM me if you wanna include names, or feel free to omit them and just give examples of the situations.
     
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