ak47 p90 awp these are guns that are renowned as 'traitor weapons' in older servers, but here, if you donate you get to spawn with em!
Thanks for the observation? In the past an update caused the vip weapons to spawn everywhere and it was quickly patched back to normal; the current setup is quite intentional. Regardless of opinions, this very intentional setup isn’t changing anytime soon.
Bruh we aren't "older servers" lmfao And you are VIP so why are you even complaining? Also if you read the rules that pop up every time you join a server
yes, im a vip, and from my position of vip i am stating this is pay to win. and honestly idk why you even included that snippet from the rules, it has nothing to do with anything.
its kinda shitty that you guys are intentionally making it pay to win (in 2019 no less) and not even offering to balance these guns
I think one thing we can all be happy about is that the DB is not in the VIP loadout selection like it was before for a while.
Vanilla was created to be an alternative to our modded servers. Without cosmetics there is really no donator incentives. To keep it as vanilla as possible, pointshop is disabled. With this loadouts became one of the only incentives on vanilla.
the mp5 isnt good and could use a buff. the Vector could use a buff. The modded m16 should just be removed altogether; the vanilla m16 is a better gun. Modded m16 is basically just a retextured hk416
ya but while we're on the topic of buffs i thought i'd throw those in. as for vanilla, the aug and mp5 could use buffs. AK and shotgun desperately need nerfing.
You know it's a shitty thread when you have to scroll down to post #11 to get to the first actual attempt at countering the point made in the OP. Like, look at this: What is this spam post? You didn't make a counter argument and simply repeated what some other guy said? It is totally pay to win and there is no arguing that, but I guess it's a necessary evil to get donations from the people who only play Vanilla. If there's seriously people who play on this server enough to decide to give money to it and at the same time still don't wanna bother downloading a texture pack so they can play on our actual servers, then let them have their fun killing 12-year-olds who just wanna play on Minecraft maps all day. It brings money to the community and keeps the garbage contained in the Vanilla servers. That's the way I personally see it and I'm content with this as a result. But yeah, there is absolutely no way anyone can deny that these servers are at least slightly pay to win and that this is intrinsically a bad thing.
Shotgun is the most op gun in vanilla and there’s dozens of them on the map so I don’t see why you’re complaining
