Accepted Let Innos shoot people the Det is damaging

Discussion in 'Rules and Protocol' started by Juice Juice™, Jun 2, 2017.

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  1. Noctorious

    Noctorious Your Best Nightmare VIP Emerald

    Don't have time atm to read all the posts but it used to be ok to assist a detective and I thought it was fine. In some cases where the player getting shot gets away from the detective or the D falls to death or dies to a T trap before calling kos. Even used it once to follow a D with DNA to a T and kill them before they have a chance to damage or kill the detective.

    +1 bringing this back
     
  2. Noctorious

    Noctorious Your Best Nightmare VIP Emerald

    That's not even 100% certainty so doesn't fall under common sense rule
     
  3. Sorry, I didn't understand your message in its entirety.
    What's not a 100% certain? The detective being proven?
     
  4. Ravin

    Ravin Determination VIP

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    The reason the Detective shooting at other players is not a T-Act is because the Detective is proven without a doubt. Allowing players to shoot a Detective makes no sense, even from an RDM perspective because he will get auto banned or a staff member will handle him if a report is brought up. This should not be left up to the players to decide.
     
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  5. Pacifist

    Pacifist Cynically Insane VIP Bronze

    You misunderstood me friend. Shooting at other players is definitely traitorous, but the rules do not say anywhere that being shot at is traitorous. You can't be killed because other players are shooting at you. There needs to be a kos called on you or the person needs to have a traitorous act to kill for. That's what I was saying. :)
     
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  6. Ravin

    Ravin Determination VIP

    The way you worded it made it seem completely different.

    Now don't forget, if a D. is putting your life in danger, IE blocking you into places you can die, knowingly trapping you when a C4 is nearby, ect, you can kill him in self defense.

    No one is helpless to when a Detective does something to you that could endanger your life in TTT, but thats between you and the Detective, not anyone else :p
     
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  7. CorallocinB

    CorallocinB Animeme lord VIP Silver Emerald

    stole my idea

    no.
     
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  8. Squidd

    Squidd VIP

    No.
     
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  9. Noctorious

    Noctorious Your Best Nightmare VIP Emerald

    It's not 100% certain the person they are shooting at is traitor or has done a traitorous act. The common sense rule only applies if you have 100% certainty that the player you kill is a traitor or has done a traitorous act
     
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  10. Squidd

    Squidd VIP

    Im curious to see Silent finesse his way around that logic and then rate you dumb.
     
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  11. Juice Juice™

    Juice Juice™ VIP Emerald Bronze

    Except someone else shot the detective. And then you still have a T who got away and is now free to kill more people. There are plenty of times where I got away and killed a lot of people even though I had a KOS on me
     
  12. Juice Juice™

    Juice Juice™ VIP Emerald Bronze

    I won't rate him dumb.
     
  13. Juice Juice™

    Juice Juice™ VIP Emerald Bronze

    You are also not 100% certain someone has done something traitorous when following a KOS. You are just following a KOS
     
  14. Squidd

    Squidd VIP

    Two different rules. KOS doesn't follow common sense. The two don't mix here.
     
  15. Noctorious

    Noctorious Your Best Nightmare VIP Emerald

    I'm not arguing with you. I agree with you. Magma was implying that it was already okay to assist the detective because of the common sense rule but I was saying that rule does not apply in this case
     
  16. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    Don't need to help defend a Detective if the person he is shooting at isn't shooting back

    If he is, then you can kill them

    ez pz lmn sqzy
     
  17. Juice Juice™

    Juice Juice™ VIP Emerald Bronze

    And why not, exactly? Why is following a KOS so different from shooting a person the Det is trying actively to kill?
     
  18. Squidd

    Squidd VIP

    Because it's not and that's how it's been for a long time. There's plenty of good reasons why this isn't a thing in this thread. Go read them again.
     
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  19. Juice Juice™

    Juice Juice™ VIP Emerald Bronze

    There are only two reasons listed period on this entire thread why not.
    1. Being shot at is not traitorous.
    2. They might be baiting and accidentally damaged the person they were shooting at.

    While I won't outright question your use of the word 'plenty',
    1. The entire point of the thread is to make that something you can shoot people for.
    2. Yeah. Not only is this situation extremely rare, but I can "What if" about a dozen situations within the current rules where this could be applied.
     
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