Reset the World and Items, but Save structures and McMMO skills (Server Reset Poll)

Discussion in 'Minecraft Suggestions' started by Juice Juice™, Mar 20, 2017.

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Do you want the server reset? (Just this once!)

  1. Yes, I want a server reset, with all my structures and McMMO skills intact

    8 vote(s)
    32.0%
  2. Yes, I want the server reset, Including Structures and McMMO skills

    9 vote(s)
    36.0%
  3. No, I dont want a server reset, Under any condition

    7 vote(s)
    28.0%
  4. I want a server reset, but in different way than described!

    1 vote(s)
    4.0%
  1. Juice Juice™

    Juice Juice™ VIP Emerald Bronze

    This would take a lot of work, but I think that if trusted people were given the temporary privilege to copy structures and paste them into a reset world, minus any items they have acquired, it would fix just about every problem we have in terms of balance and stuff, when combined with the new fixes that have and will be implimented.

    People, through various methods, have obtained ungodly amounts of resources that the server will never be able to recover from if those same people keep playing, because they will always have such massive amounts of assets over other people. There is very little incentive in me performing jobs, because I know I can just sell what I already have and make all the money back, and I know the majority of people who have the most assets also want this change.

    We didn't come by our mass amounts of wealth honestly. It has over-saturated the server to the point it can never properly recover. Especially with the addition of towny, which will fuck up everyone's claims, and the fact the longer you wait to do this the worse the problem comes, now is the perfect time to give the server the final push to a new era.
     
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  2. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    Just figure out what Kemaltje is doing and delete it

    ez fix :cool:
     
  3. The Law

    The Law You fought the law and the law won. VIP Silver Emerald

    The reason many of us have acquired "ungodly amounts of resources" is because we actually play the damn game! I've put 400+ hours into the world, and under no conditions would I want all those hours of work erased just because I put in more time and effort than others. People got rich because they spent the time figuring out the best ways of making money, and played countless hours to get the vast number of resources they have.
     
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  4. neutral

    neutral Banned VIP

    Voting for "I don't want a server reset, under any condition" even though this isn't exactly what I think.

    I think we can revive the economy without a full server reset, and that we should at least try in respect to the members, such as @The Law - and even yourself, and the hours they have put in to their work.
     
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  5. DTKGamer

    DTKGamer Emerald

    I voted for "Yes, I want a server reset, with all my structures and McMMO skills intact " because I believe that it will receive more player support; however I think that it's way too much work for staff to "copy" everyone's structures into a new world, given the fact that many of them are large scale, or secretive. Letting people keep their structures would also allow those with "ungodly amounts" of assets such as quartz, diamonds, spawners and similar "precious" items to maintain an "unfair" lead over other members. I think a "server reset, Including Structures" but not McMMO skills is a better option.
     
  6. Juice Juice™

    Juice Juice™ VIP Emerald Bronze

    What if we allowed people to take their ender chest with them? Without shulker boxes being allowed? That way, people can pick and choose what is most important to them, without having every resource imaginable immediately at their disposal?
     
  7. Zikeji

    Zikeji Repoleved VIP Emerald

    As The___Law said, alot of us have put countless hours earning what we have now. I'd argue a reset needs to be unanimous, and we aren't at that point.
     
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  8. Noctorious

    Noctorious Your Best Nightmare VIP Emerald

    Just reset half the world
     
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  9. Kemal

    Kemal VIP Emerald

    Then you will have to delete the entire server.
     
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  10. Graze

    Graze Zzz... VIP Silver

    You will always have players who have items. This literally will not go away with a server reset, and is not an issue that is around because of broken mechanic from the past. The fact is that players who play more than others will have more than others. This is how the game works. -1 to a server reset.

    I literally put in the effort to make a post explaining that all that's needed is a balance reset. A server reset simply goes too far in a direction that you can not argue for the need of one. If you can outline a good reason for there to be a reset to all aspects of the server, then illustrate it, otherwise just reset the balance and move on.
     
  11. DTKGamer

    DTKGamer Emerald

    Resetting balances will accomplish nothing. People will just spend it all before it's taken.
     
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  12. Graze

    Graze Zzz... VIP Silver

    That's kinda the point.
     
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  13. Zikeji

    Zikeji Repoleved VIP Emerald

    As Graze said, it is the point. That being said, the point of a balance reset is to do it right - which means no artificial currency enhancing (at least in my opinion). No selling to the market. The only way to make money would be from jobs (and they're working on making jobs pay more) and from buying/selling to other players. So even if a player has a shitton of stuff, they aren't going to immediately rise to the top because there won't be enough money to do so. Eventually people will earn more, people will start to get a feel for the value of the economy and what is worth X, etc., because the economy should, in this scenario, be balanced enough to the point where all players would have a similar max income from any method.
     
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  14. Graze

    Graze Zzz... VIP Silver

    100x this.
     
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  15. DTKGamer

    DTKGamer Emerald

    the point is to accomplish nothing? then why is there even a discussion on the subject?
     
  16. neutral

    neutral Banned VIP

    No. The point is to get people to spend all of their money.
     
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  17. Graze

    Graze Zzz... VIP Silver

    I simply just don't want to type out all the information about a balance reset again. If you are interested, feel free to consult my past thread on the topic where you can read about why a balance reset would accomplish something.
     
  18. Veno

    Veno Emerald

    The point is because the implementations to fix the economy could greatly increase the dollar value, so we don't want to be adding even further wealth to the already wealthy.
     
  19. (ØČĐ)™ Atlas ︻デ═一

    (ØČĐ)™ Atlas ︻デ═一 Always Gray ︻デ═一 VIP

    Hey all,

    I know I am new to the Minecraft server and have not put an ungodly amount of time into it like Law has, but I would like to chime in my 2 cents as I have put in thousands of hours into minecraft and dozens of servers.

    There is no denying that a player never wants to lose what they have put into a save or a build or their vast wealth for that point. I belive a server reset would entice new players to join and bring back some old players, but here is the thing. Vanilla minecraft is so well known and so easy to get OP in that some players lose interest rather quickly, i can talk smack about my ability to beat diekasta all i want but the reality of it is that he more then likely has multipile sets of god armor and can just come back and pummel me into the ground.

    If the server were to be reset I would suggest modded minecraft. Modpacks like Tinkers Construct, Draconic evolution, applied energistics, the aether, twilight forest. Mods that are amazing and still evolving just like minecraft its self. Adding a new learning curve is reason for a lot of players to be wanting a reset, vanilla just does not offer that.

    If this idea were to have any weight and support there are several ways to go about this.
    1. Open a new server seperatly allowing a vanilla server and a modded server.
    2. Close the Vanilla server but keep the save in case this idea bombs allowing a chance to revert if need be.
    3. Send players who want the save the file so they can add it to their .minecraft folder so they will always have their save. This can be done via drop box.

    In conclusion, the minecraft server has turned into a meme, the server is dead but for a dozen players, new players are not going to want to join a server which has only god tier players on it. Few are up to the challenge of working towards that god status with the fear of players like diekasta hopping on who can simply one-tap them with their immence mcmmo skill.

    I hope i am not gravedigging this post,
    Atlas
     
  20. Dolph1n

    Dolph1n Time is an adventure- if you know when to look. Banned Elite

    Da a balance reset. It'll be a bit like the Great Depression- everyone buying goods but no one selling. It'll kill the economy until we find some way to improve it.