(Vannila) Adding the (VIP)loadout weapons to the weapon spawns.

Discussion in 'TTT Suggestions' started by DisCHQ, Mar 2, 2017.

  1. DisCHQ

    DisCHQ Member

    At the time of writing this there are a number of weapons that can only be obtained via the loadout system. Some of these weapons provide an advantage over any of the other weapons that are currently in the spawnlists (looking at you AK47).

    I would like to suggest these weapons be added to the spawnlists. This should not be that crazy of a request considering these weapons are present in the spawnlists on the modded server.

    If you do not agree with me do let me know why.
     
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  2. Xproplayer

    Xproplayer VIP Silver

    Weapons should already spawn anyways, and they are going to be balanced in the future.
     
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  3. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    What advantages do these weapons provide? Be specific.
     
  4. DisCHQ

    DisCHQ Member

    Best example AK47 - 25 dmg per bodyshot with High RoF, it goes up against the M16 for medium range and against the MAC10 for close range.
    The M16 does 23 dmg per bodyshot with a realy slow rate of fire. The MAC10 does at max 19 dmg per bodyshot with an RoF slightly higher then the AK.

    Right now the AK can do the job of both weapons it makes the mac10 nearly useless.
     
  5. DocFox

    DocFox The Best Is Yet To Come VIP Silver Emerald

    Have you used the shotgun on Vanilla? The effective range of the shotgun is actually about the same as the AK47. Its DPS is relatively close to the AK and it's the only CQB weapon that can one-shot a person.
     
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  6. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    If you only play Vanilla, there is no other reason to donate other than to get the loadout weapons

    Nobody playing on vanilla would ever donate if the weapons only donators get spawn around the map

    -1 for this reason
     
  7. DisCHQ

    DisCHQ Member

    Only the AK can also take out people at medium range where the shotgun is useless. Also I don't see what this has to do with restricting clearly strong weapons to people that can afford to pay $20,-.

    Even if you add the weapons to the spawn list VIPs would still have a 100% chance of getting them. Since it wont spawn an AK for everyone. Still reason enough to donate.

    edit*: Also the spawns where these weapons can spawn could be random and can contain any of the currently unavailable weapons. So it might spawn an Mp5 one round but an Aug the next.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2017
  8. wagwan

    wagwan VIP

    VIP would be useless on Vanilla if they weren't VIP only. The only thing you would get as a VIP on Vanilla is 2x map vote. -1
     
  9. DisCHQ

    DisCHQ Member

     
  10. Python~

    Python~ Young Bard VIP Silver Emerald

    A weapon only donators can get is a greater incentive than getting a weapon several several non-donators have the chance to get

    Again, this is the ONLY reason to donate on Vanilla - it has to be something decent
     
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  11. DisCHQ

    DisCHQ Member

    The problem is is that right now its pay $20,- for an advantage over everyone else (p2w), this has to change. I believe that knowing you will have a weapon over the small chance of getting one is more then enough incentive to pay up.

    The other things that could be done is to remove the weapons from the loadout that give a big advantage (AK47 comes to mind).
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2017
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  12. wagwan

    wagwan VIP

    If non-donators could get VIP weapons then what would really be the point in donating if you only play on Vanilla?
     
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2017
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  13. Zypther

    Zypther #SuitUp VIP Bronze Iron

    I played until December of 2015 from like 2014 or something like that without an alarm, using the shotgun and deagle, get good with those you'll be just as effective if not more than an ak player.
     
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  14. DisCHQ

    DisCHQ Member

    Let me give you an example:

    A map has 3 random weapon spawns. These 3 weapon spawns could contain ANY of the unavailable weapons: (AK,AWP,Galil,Aug,Mp5,P90 etc.) each has the same chance of spawning. A VIP can always pick any of those weapons while the spawns could give any of the weapons. With a max playercount of 36 this should not be a problem.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2017