The simple solution

Why aren't we considering the idea of two servers?

Looking at the whole minecraft division from an outside view may help. The way the server is structured, is one of the most confusing I have ever seen since I owned the game in early 2010. Going through many servers, even being high staff with the seventh on a server with 100+ daily active players - trying to give everyone what they want just simply wont work. However forcing people to do both aspects on one server/world is a poor decision, not just from a player-count standpoint, but a player satisfaction standpoint.

I am not knocking the effort the devs or the owners done, its incredible to set out on a mission and expand the playerbase. Its a large task and takes a lot of commitment to follow through on it; but spend efforts on where it will pay off, not on smaller details that shouldnt be a problem in the first place.

The obvious answer, and I'm surpised the administration hasn't realised this, is to just make two seperate worlds. Both players get the best of both worlds, you would increase the amount of players that would play on the server. Like anything in life, at the start there will be mistakes, and some of the early mistakes in the server have been solved. The biggest counter arguement Ive seen from administration was that it would split the playerbase, but how? The amount of players on the server would still remain the same, if anything it would increase the amount of players that join the server, because they now have the option to play what they like.

The server had a rough launch, creating huge imbalances in the players, giving certain players unfair advantages (somehow no one knew that it broke the eula rules that have been out for years?) and ruining the fun for new and less fortunate players. The crate/key system added onto this, and the best option would be to start from square one, do a server reset, and give both players what they want.

 

So with ^ that said, the 'simple solution' is not an option.

 

We welcome the discussion of changes that can balance it so both parties are happy. However, unfortunately the discussions I've seen as of late just want to flip flop the entire division of happy people.

Right now the best bet is to wait on the PVP changes @irritatingness is implementing. Afterwards give some times for players to evaluate and see if more changes are necessary to balance the server.

 

Hey a simpler solution:

https://www.seriousgmod.com/threads/state-of-the-server.36950/page-5#post-338916

TL;DR

1. Party system (Disable friendly fire among party members, in another word - No PvP)
2. TPA in one's claim should require the permission from the land's owners regardless of who you are.
3. Big ass safe city with reserved plots for players (PvP disabled)

 

I'm hoping they'll provide enough of a compromise to satisfy most users, but paying for two servers just isn't feasible unless Minecraft REALLY takes off.

 

I still don't understand why there is no pvp toggle if we can't have another world like the creative copy. Being forced to PvP is not fun specialy when I first joined and I was safe in my claim then from no where with no warning it changed I got raid. I had to build walls and a castle I don't like. So far my experience on the server was awful and the more you try to please both group the worse it's gona be. The worst part is PvPer dont duel they group raid with TPA. If you simply said that you're going to focus on pvp I'd quit and probably be happier but right now I feel towed it. At this point I just want some answer so I can decide if I'm going to go look for a different server instead of investing more time in building stuff.

And the pvp at night is a bad idea I feel people agreed to it because its better than nothing.